[ANDY J]

Hi everyone my name is Andy j.
Could the imformation required for life, the universe and everything be in the very fabric of space/time.

[Guille]

Hi, be welcomed andy. I believe space-time can contain many secrets, in fact the one most important secret of all: the nature of each of the following terms, and the relationship between them (and their interactions): Matter, Energy, Force and Dimensions (MEFD). But life, that is not a question as fundamental as space-time, so it must be explained with further 'objects' and 'concepts' in the universe, such as cells, evolution, animals-plants, body-mind... But if we want to know the fundamentals of the universe, the basic laws, the unifying principle(s), it will do with MEFD.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by ANDY J

Hi everyone my name is Andy j.
Could the imformation required for life, the universe and everything be in the very fabric of space/time.

Welcome, Andy. I won't give any explation because i agree with Guille.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by <<>>

Hi, be welcomed andy. I believe space-time can contain many secrets, in fact the one most important secret of all: the nature of each of the following terms, and the relationship between them (and their interactions): Matter, Energy, Force and Dimensions (MEFD). But life, that is not a question as fundamental as space-time, so it must be explained with further 'objects' and 'concepts' in the universe, such as cells, evolution, animals-plants, body-mind... But if we want to know the fundamentals of the universe, the basic laws, the unifying principle(s), it will do with MEFD.

If life exists in the space-time. Why can't we explain with MEFD.

Mohan.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by ANDY J

Hi everyone my name is Andy j.
Could the imformation required for life, the universe and everything be in the very fabric of space/time.

Welcome to the Toe, Andy,and the answer
to your question is,yes it could.



kind regards michael.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by Mohan.C

If life exists in the space-time. Why can't we explain with MEFD.

Mohan.

Becuase life, although it is reduced to MEFD, it requiers, in order to talk of it to the level of abstraction it belongs, concepts that are more abstract than those of MEFD, as I explained, for example, cells, evolution, natural selection... (by the way, phonetically said it is not mefd, it sounds too bad I think: I pronounce it m-e-f-d, as of each leter, it's better, and it even rimes).

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by <<>>

Becuase life, although it is reduced to MEFD, it requiers, in order to talk of it to the level of abstraction it belongs, concepts that are more abstract than those of MEFD, as I explained, for example, cells, evolution, natural selection... (by the way, phonetically said it is not mefd, it sounds too bad I think: I pronounce it m-e-f-d, as of each leter, it's better, and it even rimes).

What do you mean Guille are u telling me that cells, evolution, natural selection does not depend on MEFD. I don't agree. For me, it is energy which decides everything(time as well ie. Entropy). So, doesn't that get us to evolution is a process of randomness. But aren't we becoming more ordered as we evolve-that cannot be happening. Is life also a component of time-randomness. Difficult to believe
I will pronounce it as m-e-f-d. Nice abbreviation.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by Mohan.C

What do you mean Guille are u telling me that cells, evolution, natural selection does not depend on MEFD. I don't agree. For me, it is energy which decides everything(time as well ie. Entropy). So, doesn't that get us to evolution is a process of randomness. But aren't we becoming more ordered as we evolve-that cannot be happening. Is life also a component of time-randomness. Difficult to believe
I will pronounce it as m-e-f-d. Nice abbreviation.

I never said that life, evolution, cells, natural selection not depend on MEFD. I said that reduced, we can explain them in terms of MEFD. But we don't have to be so reductionists, in fact, we can't, if we want to have a complete science. And this includes much more sciences than pure theoretic mathematical physics. Science keeps opening as it branches, and this is the real progress of science. MEFD is excelent for a basic explanation of the universe, but if we want all knowledge, we really need to explain (for example) life in terms of further concepts than MEFD, those of evolution, cells, natural selection...

[whoami]

Originally Posted by <<<GUILLE>>>

I never said that life, evolution, cells, natural selection not depend on MEFD. I said that reduced, we can explain them in terms of MEFD. But we don't have to be so reductionists, in fact, we can't, if we want to have a complete science. And this includes much more sciences than pure theoretic mathematical physics. Science keeps opening as it branches, and this is the real progress of science. MEFD is excelent for a basic explanation of the universe, but if we want all knowledge, we really need to explain (for example) life in terms of further concepts than MEFD, those of evolution, cells, natural selection...

Hi Guille,
MEFD can explain the fundamentals all right. But can it explain the origin of concious. Or is MEFD just the part of the cosmos . Or does it decide the cosmos.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by whoami

Hi Guille,
MEFD can explain the fundamentals all right. But can it explain the origin of concious. Or is MEFD just the part of the cosmos . Or does it decide the cosmos.

Here come the problems. You've given the questions that proof that MEFD is not only part of theretic physics but also of philosophy. But we must forget all these questions, we must forget the question whether the universe is determined, so we can forget about if MEFD is the origin or the decision maker, cause it is stupid to ask those questions (I don't call you stupid, I call stupid the questions). MEFD is simply the conceptualized and set-ed view of the universe (or the cosmos). Everything that exists, everything that existence is, is MEFD. And I've said many times that MEFD is not a TOE, so it doesn't explain life or the origin of consciousness... But it is the conceptual simplification. There is no ether, no void, no vortex, no souls, no spectrum (apart from light, of course)... It is closed, it doesn't allow anything that is not matter, energy, force, space, time. It may seem that then it is a stupid theory that is obvious, but many many many members int his forum add different entities in the explanation of the universe.