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03-06-2005, 05:30 PM
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The idea that a photon is a structural part of the atom is something I have not seen in any text or books. Is this your idea or can I find it in some physics literature?

Many years ago we performed a calculation that resulted implying that the "Rest Mass" of a photon was approximately 7.3x10^-68 kg and varied with wavelength. We were told that the photon did not have a "Rest Mass", only" "Relative Mass". (one of those agree or fail the course lectures)

Though I don't agree with the SFT concept I'll wait till your web is complete. I think it may be just be a difference in how we view the terminology. You know, the difference between a cigarette and a fag.

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The idea that a photon is a structural part of the atom is something I have not seen in any text or books. Is this your idea or can I find it in some physics literature?

Many years ago we performed a calculation that resulted implying that the "Rest Mass" of a photon was approximately 7.3x10^-68 kg and varied with wavelength. We were told that the photon did not have a "Rest Mass", only" "Relative Mass". (one of those agree or fail the course lectures)

Though I don't agree with the SFT concept I'll wait till your web is complete. I think it may be just be a difference in how we view the terminology. You know, the difference between a cigarette and a fag.

have a goday mate;
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It falls out of the maths solution for the EM self-field of the hydrogen atom; at one point in this formulation, the velocity appears to be the speed of light, yet it's obvious that it applies equally to electron in the atom; hence this leads to a 'fractal' maths applying both to the electron in the atom AND to the photon; and voila we end up with a photon structure. Liz Bauer and I have made a couple of conference presentations within the biophysics community. BEMS in washington, and the EBEA in Greece; I am presenting it again in Dublin this June in regards an acoustic therapy device that was successfully used to treat thourougbred racehorses who had major ligament damage. We hope that it will eventually cross over into the mainstream physics community when it is realised that the photon DOES have a (very tiny) mass and this leads to a photon spectroscopy which gives an understanding of how DNAs operate at a functional bioelectromagnetics level, and a host of other applications, including ionosphereic layers, snowflake structure, homeopathy, another 'tired light' mechanism for the cosmological red shift etc, etc, etc. This idea that photons that operate inside atomic structures can cause significant differences to the structure of some atoms and moclecules such as hydration compounds is the key to a new atomic insight i call photon chemistry

enjoy the week ahead cobber

PS whereas quantum physics does not allow 'inbetween' energies, photon chemistry leads to a continuous energy response but with precipitous changes as the transitions between energy states are crossed-the structure changes with a small change in energy. this effect can cause the DNA effects we see in the cell-cycle, and may well be responsible for magnetic flips seen in the Sun and less occasionally in the Earth's magnetic fields.

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03-07-2005, 04:25 PM
Hi Tony;
Frankly I'm impressed. Not many, if any others, have figured this out. The paragraph below is an exert from my chapter on "Particles and Structure". (work in progress)

In the Toronic concept, this particle is the Toron. However, the Toron is not always what we would refer to as a particle. When this unit of fundamental substance has not condensed to the level of a building block particle, we may see it as a photon, a magnetic line of force, and possibly as some of the currently known units in particles physics.

As you can see, I too believe the photon is an important unit to the fundamental concept of a "Theory Of Everything". Your math seems to define various photonic interactions without the need to create a 20th dimension in our reality.

You have an excellent chance to succeed.
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PS: I used to design spectrographic instrumentation.
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Dave thanks for those kind words of support and encouragement; from you i find them worth their weight!! thank god for toequest; it's going to be hard enough to change the face of physics without a bloody and bitter struggle, so thanks.

coincidentally, do you think we could design a spectrometer to measure say rainbows, or again DNA as a cell-cycle progresses, or perhaps homeopathic solutions?? ionospheric layers????? i have no idea what i'm asking here so sorry if they're all unfeasible. have a think about what might be possible.

how do we measure a photon's state?? or more pertinent a whole collection of photons inside a flask that might be heated??
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I like to think that a rainbow is natures spectrophotometer (a spectrometer that measures visible wavelengths). Other than the spectral line emission or absorption method (destructive); the only way to measure unpropagated photons that are not part of a particle structure, is to know the distance between the atoms or the curvature of a molecule strand of DNA. The resulting calculated diameter would be a close approximation of the equivalent wavelength of the imbedded photon. The problem is that there may be more than one photon producing the apparent diameter. This of course is if the photon is a bonding mechanism between atoms.

The only other device I'm aware of would be an enhanced ion microscope.

Most instruments designed to make measurements at these levels would be destructive to the sample and the photons you are attempting to detect.

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Tony;

I like to think that a rainbow is natures spectrophotometer (a spectrometer that measures visible wavelengths). Other than the spectral line emission or absorption method (destructive); the only way to measure unpropagated photons that are not part of a particle structure, is to know the distance between the atoms or the curvature of a molecule strand of DNA. The resulting calculated diameter would be a close approximation of the equivalent wavelength of the imbedded photon. The problem is that there may be more than one photon producing the apparent diameter. This of course is if the photon is a bonding mechanism between atoms.

The only other device I'm aware of would be an enhanced ion microscope.

Most instruments designed to make measurements at these levels would be destructive to the sample and the photons you are attempting to detect.

I see you are online; (
10:46 EST)
Best regards
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hmmmm!! not what i wanted to hear Dave, LOL i may have been working on the web site so sorry missed you on-line

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