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    Re: Hi, Lloyd here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
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    The dispassioned approach works best for me, as a mechanism for learning.

    The process of communication requires me to understand what somebody else means; this can be very difficult indeed, and becomes ever harder as the subject becomes ever more abstract.
    The process of reaching into another mind requires concentration and even the slightest nuance of emotion throws me (personally) off.

    I'm trying to suggest that any form of emotional presentation prevents me (maybe others?) from delving deeper into an idea
    - the feeling
    ... ... trying to put this into words now ... ...
    - is that the mind which resorts to emotion, does not want to be understood.

    In real life, I am yet to find an individual who uses emotion as anything other than a tool for layering false credence onto their ideas; the most effusive displays of emotion which I've seen have come from estate agents, double glazing salesmen and people who want to take something off you (for their personal gain).

    I enjoyed hearing Noam Chomsky and Brian Josephson both admitting to considering themselves dreary speakers.

    When an individual states a point as though it's a fact - the latent message (whether the individual intends it or not) is that:
    'you would be foolish to challenge this self evident truth'
    - style of delivery then as all important, at least if the individual desires to communicate information.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: Hi, Lloyd here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    SB, I don't see the desire for money as the problem. I see the lack of understanding of currency mechanics, as the problem. I do agree with you about the universe being simple and knowable, and it being a people problem of unified interpretations, but I do not believe personality niceness has anything to do with it__Someone can scream at me, and call me anything they want, if they have a valuable point__I'm all ears__I ignore my emotions, to gain the truth. The nicer the personalities are, in my experience, the further we drift from the necessary logic of understanding rational mind__The wheat must be separated from the chaff, and I being different than you, do not feel its a personal issue, at all. When I was your age, I did think it a personal issue__I no longer do. It's a simple logical, mathematical and testable experiment issue...

    I think over-niceness blocks advancements, necessary to logics', maths' and experiments' advancements, though I could be nicer if others were. The facts are if emotions offend intellect, intellect offends emotions, and if intellect offends emotions, emotions offend intellect__Just the nature of the animals__They're both emotionally based...

    When you have that solution__Let me know__I don't think it exists...
    This post is interesting, because it helps to illustrate the point I was making.
    The point I was making wasn't in relation to this site, and was everything to do with people as a whole (in the species).

    And so what'd I like to see as the likely outcome of ToE?
    People being pleasant to one another - where what prevents peoples' humanity shining through (stealing from the popular phrase) - is the desire for money.
    Words play these kinda' games; if such a sentence (as above) can be misconstrued - one wonders how many exchanges between people on significantly more complex issues are thoroughly misunderstood.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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