Hi, Lloyd here...

[Lloyd Gillespie]

"Green eyes, devil in disguise." "Blue eyes, snooze you lose." "Brown eyes, crown and clown." Hi, I'm blue eyes, the trickster from the little town of Meddybemps, Maine___a pretty little valley, with a beautiful lake, and mountains and hills all around. I grew up in a family of royalty, the family owning most of the town, and running political affairs as well. I am of the black sheep side, as my grandfather married a second time___a real no-no in the twenties. My house was full of academics, businessmen and PhD educators___gramps was a teacher, businessman, local and state politician, farmer, statesman and all around great guy, loved by many, as he employed many in construction, farming, and land oversight___over 100,000 acres in the twenties___3,000 acres still in the family today.

So, as you can well imagine, I had a very well rounded upbringing and tutorledge. Through my youth I was friends with boys whose fathers were economists, philosophers, physicists, electrical engineers, and other assorted academics. Many of my friends became masters of physics, electronics and economics. I'm still friends with many. Of course, I myself, am a wise-acker hard-drinking arrogant, insulting, and often disdainful Irishman. I don't like people much. I think dogs are much better than humans___thus my often bent toward outright put-downs. I'm quite well-aware of how my mind works, and always take the roads I do by self-known choice. I don't much care whose meta-feelings I hurt, because I only really know/believe in, and am interested in cognitive system's sciences. My wife and children hate me for this stance, but oh well, I and they will just have to live with it... I am who I am, and at my age, I ain't-a-changing...

Oh, in the seventies, I had a spiritual-social-cultural awakening. After it screwed me up so much, I abandoned all meta-non-physics for the cognitive sciences. The notes I took in that era have had to be mostly trashed___too much cultist meta-non-physics mixed with my own science views of the era. I have since tried hard to cleanse the scientific swamp of metaphysical Alligators, as Dave has said, or so-so... Through over forty years of research, note taking, editing of over 50,000 pages, and writing three web publish books___now deleted from web, I have learned what is real to me, and what is not___so you often see my straight-forward sarcasm. I should insert that I also spent three years studying with a polymath auto-didact buddhist___the main reason for my meta-non-physics exit. My first studies were comparative religions of the world, psychology, and anthropology. My next were physics, then philosophy, economics, law___finally settling on economics guided by the laws of physics over economic laws. Now, after realizing how difficult it is to get a big economic idea across to the general or specific public, I have decided a return to physics___to find a big idea___may be the most likely chance of success for my economic ideas___which are already completed. Therefore, I'm here along with all of you to discover the big Idea. My aims are probably most different than others, as I see using a TOE only as value of promoting, I feel, more important economic ideas for the safety and security of the future of America and the world.

That said, after starting my physics quests, in the sixties and seventies, returning here has actually caught my interests___very strongly. I like Tony S's, Dave W's, Baud's, HBD's, Tiny Tree's, Mr. Nobody's, Guille's, Robert's and I know several others' ideas, I'm forgetting. I think I'm so far into this I may be stuck here___it's just become intrigueing to try and figure out just the quantum/relativity of one atom's absolute motion. I can't help but try to envision a cesium atom at a virtual complete rest state, devoid of all angular and linear motion___how large would it be after losing all that motion?

Anyway, for all my good and bad, this is me. I'm on the quest...

regards,
Lloyd Gillespie

p.s.
BTW, I'm presently retired on the coast of Florida, in the beautiful sands of Mexico Beach. The campground is great, and the resturant, Tucans, is excellent. I'm enjoying the sun, beach, shark fishing and warm water. Wish everyone could enjoy such a retirement/vacation. Just to make you all a bit jealous, My H2 Hummer runs and looks great___06-Jet Black-10.5mpg towing a six ton camper-that's better than most other trucks, towing the same weight... To hell with the terrorists and tree huggers___I'm having fun living life to the fullest...

[zeroca]

Hi, Lloid!

Rare pleasure to read such interesting posts.
I don’t possess everything you do. I mean material side. As it’s your thread, I wouldn’t like to speak about me, but as a personality I’m just opposite of you, except for taking the roads I do by self-known choice as well. And I also always try to realize my choice even against the great organized group of people, not caring about their opinion…
I Like Tony S., respect Harmonygirl, Michelle, Robert, Michael and the others…
I’m very much obliged to Americans for a lot they did for me.
I see clearly that behind your words stays a man. I’d shake your hand with great pleasure if you weren’t so wealthy…

Best regards,
Merab.

[mkirkpatrick]

Hi,Michael here,ever so nice of you to share with us Lyoyd,like being at an A.A. meeting
Hope you enjoy your retirement,remember that the local reptiles are called Alligators
and not the way you spell it,maybe you could brush up on your spelling while lazing on
the bitch?

warm regards michael.

[labelwench]

Interesting. I follow the web-bots and spiders on occasion, as they tend to dig up some interesting old threads. Quite pleased to have stumbled on this one.

I myself, am a wise-acker hard-drinking arrogant, insulting, and often disdainful Irishman.

LOL. Your self-proclamation explains some of the posts I have observed, which seemed quite at odds with your usually very well stated work. I shall take that under advisement.

Best regards,

Lorrina

[austintorn@aol.com]

HI Lloyd. Welcome to ToeQuest.

I am Irish as well, at least half, anyway, as there were many invasions.

Although not hard drinking, I may have one on occasion. Bailey's Irish Creme is tasty.

Glad you came over to science from meta-land.

[SB_UK]

I think dogs are much better than humans.

So do I.

Pretty sure that Label prefers horses to human beings also.

We're meant to be adopting this viewpoint in life, as a necessary precursor to doing something about it.

Doing what though?

Learning not to be needy
&
Learning not to make ourselves needed (always at co$t to the other individual)

Evolution to liberty (for the individual) through empowering others
who're
supposed to empower you (in turn)
- to live without needing to be exposed to them.

Provide a mechanism ?

Suggest to people that they can claim a Global average salary as soon as they form into groups based on their current employment status and defined a mechanism for doing themselves out of a job (which does not result in society suffering).

Examples (most requiring a high speed wireless Internet connection)
No cars necessary with Live timetables for public transport.
No pharmaceutical companies/medical doctors/dentists required with a change in lifestyle (diet predominantly)
No supermarkets required with a strict definition of the foods which we can eat without health problems being expected.
No teachers required with a curriculum which parents are required to deliver.

Of course no hydrocarbon, police, army, banker (financial industry), lawyer and politicians.
That is the old, crumbling, corrupt order .

Pretty sure that we can more than get by (which is more than we're currently doing) with people doing what they enjoy (IT is a pastime not a job), introducing full automation or fully distributing any necessary expertise to one and all (how to solder, for instance).

I think dogs are much better than humans.

I completely agree; a mindset from which change necessary -
a species of individuals who hate the sight of one other
(as an essential part of process evolutionary)
heading us in only one direction

-> that -> directon being towards change -

... ... ( ) -<- though or ->- |, in this nuclear age ?

[r.p.bibra]

SB_UK, Lloyd Gillespie

Why don’t you two start an academia like Plato & Aristotle and teach some of the basic tenets of your philosophy to a selected few top young CEO, so that they could in turn bring some transformation in the system? It is a practical suggestion (all in seriousness), which is being followed in a prestigious university in India and the results are astonishing! Love&regards.ls

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Hi Bibra, and thanks for the vote of confidence. As you may already know, my daughter presently has one of these schools, and I am often her adviser, though she quite often thinks for herself__as she comes from two strong willed parents. My present path is to air my ideas in public forums, such as ToeQuest, to find the weak spots__then I also plan on furthering the education of other educated peoples. Presently also, I am a member of "The Camden Philosophical Society", where I'm debating these same ideas in a public forum, in person, to find other weak points. After I'm satisfied with my course building experiments, I'll then take it openly public__Maybe in a year or so...

Anyway, thanks for the interest,
Lloyd

SB_UK, Lloyd Gillespie

Why don’t you two start an academia like Plato & Aristotle and teach some of the basic tenets of your philosophy to a selected few top young CEO, so that they could in turn bring some transformation in the system? It is a practical suggestion (all in seriousness), which is being followed in a prestigious university in India and the results are astonishing! Love&regards.ls

[SB_UK]

There's nothing complicated about the Universe we live in, that's the essence of ToE.

The problem we're faced with, is in disentangling peoples' minds, such that all people can see how simple reality truly is.

Nature had to do everything we see and a whole lot more and ~all~ of this, all on its lonesome -
- all we're required to do is to understand the mechanism which reality is constrained to work to.

We're perfectly predictable products of evolutionary process.

~*~

And so what'd I like to see as the likely outcome of ToE?

People being pleasant to one another - where what prevents peoples' humanity shining through (stealing from the popular phrase) - is the desire for money.

Nothing controversial there - simply repeating a much used phrase which has been quoted many times over by forum members here.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

There's nothing complicated about the Universe we live in, that's the essence of ToE.

The problem we're faced with, is in disentangling peoples' minds, such that all people can see how simple reality truly is.

Nature had to do everything we see and a whole lot more and ~all~ of this, all on its lonesome -
- all we're required to do is to understand the mechanism which reality is constrained to work to.

We're perfectly predictable products of evolutionary process.

~*~

And so what'd I like to see as the likely outcome of ToE?

People being pleasant to one another - where what prevents peoples' humanity shining through (stealing from the popular phrase) - is the desire for money.

Nothing controversial there - simply repeating a much used phrase which has been quoted many times over by forum members here.

SB, I don't see the desire for money as the problem. I see the lack of understanding of currency mechanics, as the problem. I do agree with you about the universe being simple and knowable, and it being a people problem of unified interpretations, but I do not believe personality niceness has anything to do with it__Someone can scream at me, and call me anything they want, if they have a valuable point__I'm all ears__I ignore my emotions, to gain the truth. The nicer the personalities are, in my experience, the further we drift from the necessary logic of understanding rational mind__The wheat must be separated from the chaff, and I being different than you, do not feel its a personal issue, at all. When I was your age, I did think it a personal issue__I no longer do. It's a simple logical, mathematical and testable experiment issue...

I think over-niceness blocks advancements, necessary to logics', maths' and experiments' advancements, though I could be nicer if others were. The facts are if emotions offend intellect, intellect offends emotions, and if intellect offends emotions, emotions offend intellect__Just the nature of the animals__They're both emotionally based...

When you have that solution__Let me know__I don't think it exists...