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10-15-2006, 04:59 AM
| | The introduction of myself I begin with no premise but language. Language represents ideas through symbols. Symbols presuppose ideas. A symbol applied to an idea reduces the idea to a concept understood by others, but the symbol itself is not an idea. The symbol is a symbol, a representation of something else entirely. Thus, anyone who reads the words on this page or any other is constructing ideas of their own guided by symbols.
Language can be broken down into its own set of symbols, namely letters. Letters used in combination form single ideas, namely words, and words in kind can create communicable concepts. Words are limited in their ability to convey ideas. Humans can assign a word to express any imaginable idea. Yet, words cannot communicate unimaginable ideas, except to communicate that the idea is unimaginable. Ironically, unimaginable ideas need not be communicated for they will not even enter the mind. Nonetheless, the realm of unimaginable ideas is composed of all the ideas man cannot communicate, and I should keep that idea in mind.
Turning next to another language, mathematics describes ideas in a more exact fashion than language, for mathematics deals with symbols as absolute ideas. The symbols in mathematics, namely numbers and variables, form together to create concepts. Abstract as the world of numbers is, nothing in the universe evades description by the ideas generated through numbers and the concepts created by combining numbers together.
So I am here to discuss numbers. Since I am utterly unable to communicate anything relevant about myself through the other language, I shall assign myself a variable, "Tarsk," which variable can mean anything you so choose, and which variable I promise to answer to when called upon. Oh, hello. | | | | Moderator
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10-15-2006, 07:57 AM
| Re: The introduction of myself Welcome Tarsk to the toequest community,I sendyou greetings from England,look
forward to your further postings.
regards michael.
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10-16-2006, 01:41 AM
| | Re: The introduction of myself Great to see a true mathematician on board. I like the Tarski resemblance... Hi, welcome to the search. I may be needing your help shortly. Are you familiar with eigenvalues, manifolds, the three sphere problems, etc., as applies to the internal quantum/relative motions of singularities? Sorry to be so forward, but just checking___no big rush...
regards,
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Originally Posted by Tarsk I begin with no premise but language. Language represents ideas through symbols. Symbols presuppose ideas. A symbol applied to an idea reduces the idea to a concept understood by others, but the symbol itself is not an idea. The symbol is a symbol, a representation of something else entirely. Thus, anyone who reads the words on this page or any other is constructing ideas of their own guided by symbols.
Language can be broken down into its own set of symbols, namely letters. Letters used in combination form single ideas, namely words, and words in kind can create communicable concepts. Words are limited in their ability to convey ideas. Humans can assign a word to express any imaginable idea. Yet, words cannot communicate unimaginable ideas, except to communicate that the idea is unimaginable. Ironically, unimaginable ideas need not be communicated for they will not even enter the mind. Nonetheless, the realm of unimaginable ideas is composed of all the ideas man cannot communicate, and I should keep that idea in mind.
Turning next to another language, mathematics describes ideas in a more exact fashion than language, for mathematics deals with symbols as absolute ideas. The symbols in mathematics, namely numbers and variables, form together to create concepts. Abstract as the world of numbers is, nothing in the universe evades description by the ideas generated through numbers and the concepts created by combining numbers together.
So I am here to discuss numbers. Since I am utterly unable to communicate anything relevant about myself through the other language, I shall assign myself a variable, "Tarsk," which variable can mean anything you so choose, and which variable I promise to answer to when called upon. Oh, hello. |
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11-10-2006, 12:53 AM
| | Re: The introduction of myself Hi Tarsk,
I like the way you talk! You're probably not popular at parties but I find your topic fascinating. Perhaps you can repost this in the Logic, Language and Reasoning forum. Seems like it would be a good fit.
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