Hello Robert, Fellow TOEists, et al.

[CircadianFilmGroup]

"Wake up to find out - that you are the eyes of the world" -R. Hunter

Of all people participitating in online forums currently, I have a hunch that most of you will agree that "coincidence" and "happenstance" rarely occurs, if at all.

My entrance to this forum was not a coincidence - having occurred at a very SERENDIPITOUS (I prefer this word) moment.

I am a newly "awakened" member of the burgeoning "Yoan" online community, and have founded a community, called the "Circadian Film Group", dedicated to the promotion and dissemination of alternative, philisophical video media for the Open Source Truth Process. This will, I hope, further the transition of internet to a higher, less commercial paradigm - the propagation of a a true YoTube vs. the already-commercialized "YouTube".

If the TOE has as positive a vision as the YO, I will be a very active member of this community, as www.yoism.org lacks an effective forum.

Thank you Robert for initiating this, and I hope you will all take an opportunity to stop by http://www.circadianfilmgroup.org as we grow together, opening our "doors of perception" and cautiously manifesting the era to come. The 21st century is going to be a bumpy ride, and the more "visionary indian angels" (Ginsberg) we have pointing out the potholes lying before us, the better.

Peace, Incense and Peppermints.

DB
Please

[mkirkpatrick]

Welcome again DB,you are in the right place at the right time,fortune favours the brave!


regards michael.

[dleviwing]

DB;
If you review the many forums of ToeQuest you’ll find that it is not designed as a soapbox for any political agenda or the depravity discussions of human social problems. If you are here to promote your socialist agenda I believe you would feel more welcome in one of the many internet forms designed for such discussions or debates. I’ve already observed several generations of the stupidity of youth; including my own. Human nature has not changed and I don’t expect it will for your generation either.

Youth is a phase you’ll grow out of to gain wisdom.

[CircadianFilmGroup]

DB;
If you review the many forums of ToeQuest you’ll find that it is not designed as a soapbox for any political agenda or the depravity discussions of human social problems. If you are here to promote your socialist agenda I believe you would feel more welcome in one of the many internet forms designed for such discussions or debates. I’ve already observed several generations of the stupidity of youth; including my own. Human nature has not changed and I don’t expect it will for your generation either.

Youth is a phase you’ll grow out of to gain wisdom.

Exactly what "socialist agenda" do you refer to David?

You've got me stumped. (Or, rather, "soapboxed")

I cannot take issue with your claim that "human nature" has not changed during your lifetime - that is your subjective opinion, which I respect. Perhaps within your lifetime human social "natures" (manners, attitudes, raison d'etre) have not changed perceptibly.

In what context, though, are you using the word "nature"? For human "Natures" (our somatic, material beings) have indeed CHANGED DRASTICALLY. The proliferation of human-engineered chemicals in our biosphere (from DDT to rGBH to Agent Orange) have proved how great a change we can make in our genes alone (often for the worst, in the aforementioned cases). In order for me to better understand what you mean, I need clarification, dialectic, discussion, amiable worthless internet chatting to pass the time - in short, anything but an empty tirade.

So, I accept your comments with a peaceful heart - but would ask you to back them up with something of more substance. Your assumptions and labeling only limits our possibilities to learn from one another.

Youth is a phase that I will gain wisdom to grow out of.

DB

[dleviwing]

Exactly what "socialist agenda" do you refer to David?

Are you brainwashed or just blind to what you are preaching?

In what context, though, are you using the word "nature"? For human "Natures" (our somatic, material beings) have indeed CHANGED DRASTICALLY. The proliferation of human-engineered chemicals in our biosphere (from DDT to rGBH to Agent Orange) have proved how great a change we can make in our genes alone (often for the worst, in the aforementioned cases). In order for me to better understand what you mean, I need clarification, dialectic, discussion, amiable worthless internet chatting to pass the time - in short, anything but an empty tirade.

This is the "soapbox" and has no relavants to ToeQuest forums. Do you really think that ToeQuest members are naive and stupid?

I reviewed the circadianfilmgroup.org site and found nothing relevant to the pursuits of the ToeQuest forums. If there is something I overlooked, please point me in the direction that you believe is relevant to ToeQuest members; otherwise I can only conclude that your links are nothing more than SPAM.

[CircadianFilmGroup]

A declined invitation for discussion, I take it.

I'm really sorry you feel this way David, and sincerely hope that as I progress in activity here, your warnings will prove - as I think they do - false.

"We all come from unique gene pools and are further shaped by our various cultures, different education and life experiences and from this we gain unique insights and perspectives into the meaning of life and the nature of the reality in which we exist. To be successful in our quest, this knowledge, insight, creative imagination must be cultivated, harnessed, extracted from each member and assimilated into a whole. This whole, once it is properly distilled, represents the Theory of Everything. This is the Vision of ToeQuest."

Please respect my "blindness" or "brainwashing", although it may frustrate you, and rest assured I have no "agenda" or even the most remote desire to change the path of the TOE. Why? Because it is in perfect accord already with the Open Source Truth Process of which I am already a participant. However you may have (mis)interpreted the information/media on my website, the published "vision" of this forum not only supports but DEMANDS such diversity of opinion and lifestyle. Your intolerance of my views (which you have refused to explain) only calls into question your own devotion to the Open Source foundation of ToeQuest.

Again, I apologize if I have offended you in some way - naivete only becomes ignorance when one shuts ones eyes and ears, something which I have not done. It has been you, instead, who has denied me a chance to raise my awareness.

All this said, I thank you for your warnings. Whether you like it or not, however, I will continue here - expressing my own individual experience - for as long as I see fit. If I somehow don't fit into your individual perception of the TOE, then ignore me.

I'll reaffirm your suspicions with some verses from a TRUE socialist:

"Oh you'd like to be my father - you'd like to be my dad,
and give me kisses when I'm good and spank me when I'm bad,
but since I left my parents, I've forgotten how to bow,
so when I've got something to say, sir, I'm gonna say it now.

And things they might be different, if I was here alone,
but I've also got a friend or two who no longer live at home,
and we'll respect our elders just as long as they allow,
that when I've got something to say, sir, I'm gonna say it now."

-Phil Ochs

[dleviwing]

DB;
You are quite welcome to participate in any of the ToeQuest forums. The “Introduction” forum is for new members to introduce themselves to the rest of the members. As a ToeQuest moderator I become suspicious of new members that provide links to sites that promote ideologies that do not seem relevant to our forums. I hope you understand my concerns.

Welcome to ToeQuest; I hope you enjoy it.

[G_burnett]

glad i am minding or trying to mind MY P's and Q's in here ... your belt degree may be underrated sir ... there is a past historical record in martial arts for the power of voice as an art form and you have made its memory proudly believable to me of its written form so given and in the past achieved to very rare extent by self to know it... TY ... i am ...
... humbled ... graham

[MJA]

Dear DB,

Welcome to the Quest.

Here is a nice thought for the day : One must know that one is not in order to be able to understand that we are all simply and equally just one. Wei Wu Wei and Me

=
MJA

[G_burnett]

- naiveté only becomes ignorance when one shuts ones eyes and ears, something which I have not done.


Hi

naiveté, the noun version, becomes ignorance when awareness, that what we learn, is applied in ego and is denied by the self, never given, even combining together to be ignorant for there is still truth in the whole existing, just hidden .. i personally welcome your need to learn as the human condition if such need is as i subscribe to need being a part of the human condition and persona and it fascinates me despite what you might try to do with the knowledge by rationalizations knowing and subscribed to by yourself in some noted now possible ignorant way, or combining with others in a socialistic xxxxxx xxxxx gang, it will not be much where you are now, awareness being used in ignorance, never has been in history, to my meager study and with my personal prior interest in programming the process of debugging and deprogramming errors of logic being this is most enjoyable a task for my faculties to assist in presumptuously as needed and time warrants ... to your quest!

"what you think you need and what you get maybe, are going to be two different things!"

graham