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I am looking for any ideas on the above title. I calculated the Gravitational Singularity of the Electron.
  
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05-13-2005, 02:15 AM

this may be what causes the photoelectric effect, don't you think?

I don't know much about the math of this, but yes about the thoughts:

we could predict the elctron's mass: if this gravitational singularity acted like a black hole, converting the matter that got inside into antimatter, it could be that at the other side of the singularity, maybe another universe, there is the rest of the mass of the electron, what it should have.

This could also explain why the electrons have charge -1.

any proves of these two mass-charge ideas? (they are very important for the TOE).
  
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05-13-2005, 03:31 PM

Hi unclepeacock;
Welcome to TOEquest.
The electron dose not have a center of mass at its core; only positive and neutral particles do. I believe Stephen Hawking called them microsingularities in his 1968 science paper.
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05-13-2005, 04:22 PM

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Hi unclepeacock;
Welcome to TOEquest.
The electron dose not have a center of mass at its core; only positive and neutral particles do. I believe Stephen Hawking called them microsingularities in his 1968 science paper.
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yes: Hawking called them microsingularties. But he didn't have in account any of the mathematics that is use in demostrating that electrons (-1 charged particles) do have a microsingularity. Although I think this hasn't been empirically veryfied.
  
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too long away from the subject. - 05-13-2005, 06:58 PM

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yes: Hawking called them microsingularties. But he didn't have in account any of the mathematics that is use in demostrating that electrons (-1 charged particles) do have a microsingularity. Although I think this hasn't been empirically veryfied.

Absolutely right Guille; it has not been verified by observation or experiment.
I should have said that the singularity is a false concept as it is currently defined.

I'm quite sure the electron dose NOT have a central core even though it has a center of "mass"; however a positron dose.
Of course this depends on what book you read.
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05-13-2005, 07:16 PM

From Unclepeacock-The Electron has a very small volume. This means that the Density is extremely high. The Singularity is fluctuating inside the Core of the Electron-the energy of the Electron is sucked into the Singularity and is forced into a String (String Theory)?
  
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05-14-2005, 04:21 AM

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if this gravitational singularity acted like a black hole, converting the matter that got inside into antimatter,
it could be that at the other side of the singularity, maybe another universe, there is the rest of the mass of the electron, what it should have.

Sorry Guille There is a math barrier in this for me, I can't get through it,
But 'what ifs' OKAY,
Do you mean antimatter in a 'backwards' universe? A Universe in contraction?
mmmmmm.....I estimate a low probability of this....remember everything is a product of TIME
Expansion can continue, divergent
COntraction will end, convergent
The thought
"might be expansion slows, reverses, contracts, Kayos, big bang, recycling universe of expansion/contraction"
belongs to Einstien, and drives us to measure the rate of universal expansion, we now know we are expanding faster as time passes
This could also explain why the electrons have charge -1.
Mankind has quantized the electron volt, and with respect to couloumbs,labeled this quantum "-1"
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any proves of these two mass-charge ideas? (they are very important for the TOE).
http://www.toequest.com/library/article.php?id=015

The "state" of the other universe isn't contraction. It is also expanding: if not, it couldn't work with my matter-antimattter transfer.

The actuall important part of all is that the singularity converts the mass that isn't there now of the electron, into antimatter, this antimatter goe to the other side of the singularity (although the singulrity is zero dimensional) and there is something: I don't know what, but I know that it is antimatter, that it is in the other side of the singularity, and that it is in a universe also expanding: maybe even equally to our universe.
  
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missused wave functions - 05-14-2005, 10:12 AM

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From Unclepeacock-The Electron has a very small volume. This means that the Density is extremely high. The Singularity is fluctuating inside the Core of the Electron-the energy of the Electron is sucked into the Singularity and is forced into a String (String Theory)?
Unclepeacock;
If you are attempting to use "String Theory" to make a point you may wish to wait till the string theorist finalize their concept; Actually I think the theorist are attempting to do a put-on type practical joke. The explanation for the functional mathematics of String theory is wrong and basically pure BS. I view string theory like religion; you need to believe and have faith. The density of the electron is like comparing the density of cotton candy to a bowling ball.
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05-14-2005, 04:29 PM

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Enlightenment of my errors in this quest was given in my brief meetings with Carl Sagan (hope I spelled his name right) during his participation in several NASA projects.
You met Carl Sagan?! I would have done so much for that.

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So I ask you now,
How do you really know of anti-matter? I have searched for years for verification of its existance.
I don't know that anti-matter exists, it's just something I think to be true: black holes are anti-matter, they haven't been directly observed, but they are generally acepted to exist.

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Are protons in the normal electron orbits?
Why do you believe that a singularity is a portal connection to a parallel universe?
Anti-matter basically only mean: matter made up of the fundamental particles as matter but with opposite electric charge. Nothing to do with position or whatever other property. I beleive that a singularity is a portal connection to a parallel universe because it is something that my brain finds logical. Someone may find god logical, so s/he believes in him/her/it.

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Is it on faith alone? Does this concept HAVE to be true for validity of your theories?
Faith. This getting to philosophy but, what is "faith"? for me, faith is hope. And for me, hope is everything. Whar we know is hope. hope is intuition. intuition is what I reduce our brains and minds to. No: my theory doesn't need at all this parallel universe or singularities ideas (yet: and I don't think it will need them in the future).

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Have you been able to actually prove this concept to yourself?
I have searched for this proof for many years, so please, if you have it, will you share it with me?.............q7
I haven't prove this concept of parallel universes to my self: it's something I find logical (as I said before); something that makes sense for me. I'm an "answer-searcher-and-question-creator" so I also try to find explenations of this concept, but as you may know (everybody has been 14 years old) it is difuclt at my age to have so much knowledge.

We search for knowledge to support ideas in our youth, we search ideas when to support our knowledge in our aging. We go from sea to mountain: from imagination to experience, always with the company of wonder.
  
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singularities are out of this world.
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singularities are out of this world. - 05-19-2005, 12:02 PM

I did those calculations also and was amazed to find the appearent strong equivalence between tiny black hole diamaters, to all particle diameters when the necessary Hawking's quantum Penrose hair shell is added.

Eistein thought that if black holes could exist, there should be gazzilions tiony black holes everytwhere.

Indeed there are gazillions of particles, perhaps Einstein was right again...

Einstein said that any unified field theory must be free of singularities.

Hawkings now believes that a unified field theory is not possible. I must agree because it is the nature of field theories to exhibit singularities, and I see no solution with fewer dimensions than there are participants.

But considering a dynamical action of discrete black holes, exibits the nature of the second solution for the horizon at the center of the black hole. The inner horizon is as unreachable as the outter horizon making the siguality external to the system.

If, as nature suggests, she is discrete, then all the sigulaities may be resolved. But, we no longer have a field theory, we have an information systems model.

Thus I believe, there is a mathimatical singularity at the center of the elecron, but it is out of this world. It only exists in the world of ideas. It has no physical manifestation.

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