"human thought" is a matter?

[mkirkpatrick]

When the driver leaves the vechicle there is the inevitable weight loss,I was not
aware until I read this post that it seems to be 21grams!How very interesting,To
me the human body is only a vechicle for the soul to use to permit it entry into
this dence psysical world,to gain experience,and learn the lessons of life-expression.When the soul has taken what it needs from this expression,it withdraws from the form-vechicle and we die.The animating life force withdraws
the electrical energy-runs to ground!and the vechicle is returned to its owners.Air,earth,fire,water,who will kindly reassemble it again at a later date and grant the new owner some clothes to wear while visiting earth?


kind regards michael.

[michellemfry]

Let's get back to Unified8. The idea that thoughts have mass is a valid one. Do we not weigh a hypothesis? If it has merit, do we not give it mass. Does it not remain suspended if it has merit? There is a mass and a place for a valid hypothesis. It is defined by two parameters.

[Infinite Consciousness]

Re: "human thought" is a matter?
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Originally Posted by unified8
I know I haven't fully introduced myself... Hi! everyone in their "toe's"! Maybe any of you have thought of this before, the thing that I was thinking for almost 20 years now as a living creature in this wonderful planet earth. Have you thought of our "thoguhts" as matters as in by definiton, one that occupies space and has weight. Of course no doubt, our thoughts occupy spce in our mind, right? But I wonder about if it has weight?

Hey, I am a believer of metaphysics, and I think their are purer matters that are not tangible nor can be seen by our naked eyes. I can see it is difficult to understand even my "thought-matter theory", unless one appreciates the merging "string theory".

Hey guys! What do you think about my query? Is it worth discussing?

By professioin, I am just a teacher of English, by I like science and Philosophy so much that I want to be a part of an active discovering intelligences in the universe.


Ni hao ma!, Mabuhay!, Shalom!, and Aloha! to everyone.


Warm regards,

Unified8


The physical-material world and everything in it is the materialized thought of God who is Infinite Conscious Awareness independent of His Creation !

The soul is a holographic part of the independent Creator - the soul is Infinite Conscious Awareness in the process of knowing Itself by separating Itself from its physical-material Creation i.e. the 3d hologram or profound illusion that it creates through thought.

Yes, thought is the matter (i.e. it has weight and occupies space) of the - physical - astral - and causal - planes of consciousness brought to life or enlivened by consciousness - at different frequencies of vibration.

The mind is the main magnet and the world is its huge magnetic field and the more we struggle to get out the more we are caught in its meshes.

Like Archimedes we need to find the center of gravity and rise up out of our self-imposed imprisonment in the magnetic field that we ourself are creating by our electric thinking.

[Infinite Consciousness]

Re: "human thought" is a matter?
Quote:
Originally Posted by unified8
I know I haven't fully introduced myself... Hi! everyone in their "toe's"! Maybe any of you have thought of this before, the thing that I was thinking for almost 20 years now as a living creature in this wonderful planet earth. Have you thought of our "thoguhts" as matters as in by definiton, one that occupies space and has weight. Of course no doubt, our thoughts occupy spce in our mind, right? But I wonder about if it has weight?

Hey, I am a believer of metaphysics, and I think their are purer matters that are not tangible nor can be seen by our naked eyes. I can see it is difficult to understand even my "thought-matter theory", unless one appreciates the merging "string theory".

Hey guys! What do you think about my query? Is it worth discussing?

By professioin, I am just a teacher of English, by I like science and Philosophy so much that I want to be a part of an active discovering intelligences in the universe.


Ni hao ma!, Mabuhay!, Shalom!, and Aloha! to everyone.


Warm regards,

Unified8


The physical-material world and everything in it is the materialized thought of God who is Infinite Conscious Awareness independent of His Creation !

The soul is a holographic part of the independent Creator - the soul is Infinite Conscious Awareness in the process of knowing Itself by separating Itself from its physical-material Creation i.e. the 3d hologram or profound illusion that it creates through thought.

Yes, thought is the matter (i.e. it has weight and occupies space) of the - physical - astral - and causal - planes of consciousness brought to life or enlivened by consciousness - at different frequencies of vibration.

The mind is the main magnet and the world is its huge magnetic field and the more we struggle to get out the more we are caught in its meshes.

Like Archimedes we need to find the center of gravity and rise up out of our self-imposed imprisonment in the magnetic field that we ourself are creating by our electric thinking.

Unified8, your theory about thought has just been proven see the the article posted by Nobody about stopping light.

[theunify]

Was this post referencing beginning string theory as a model for NCNFTOE?

Haven't we exhausted the theory in favor of evidence and research into dark matter _

I know I haven't fully introduced myself... Hi! everyone in their "toe's"! Maybe any of you have thought of this before, the thing that I was thinking for almost 20 years now as a living creature in this wonderful planet earth. Have you thought of our "thoguhts" as matters as in by definiton, one that occupies space and has weight. Of course no doubt, our thoughts occupy spce in our mind, right? But I wonder about if it has weight?

Hey, I am a believer of metaphysics, and I think their are purer matters that are not tangible nor can be seen by our naked eyes. I can see it is difficult to understand even my "thought-matter theory", unless one appreciates the merging "string theory".

Hey guys! What do you think about my query? Is it worth discussing?

By professioin, I am just a teacher of English, by I like science and Philosophy so much that I want to be a part of an active discovering intelligences in the universe.


Ni hao ma!, Mabuhay!, Shalom!, and Aloha! to everyone.


Warm regards,

Unified8

[theunify]

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Was this post referencing beginning string theory as a model for NCNFTOE?

Haven't we exhausted the theory in favor of evidence and research into dark matter _

[Drifter]

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_constant.html
Originally posted by and pranams to Island, post#24 in the 'Top Down' thread, a few years back.

A few days ago I was looking at this website and I saw that a theorie of everything would actually explane everything.

Until now we have this big bang theorie which explanes the beginning of everything...

It starts with totally nothing... (not even empty space)

Suddenly out of this nothing; their starts to exist like this very hot 'ping pong ball' of energy...

So what do you think about my question: how can their suddenly start to exist something like this 'ping pong ball of energy' out of totally nothing?

I mean, would the theorie of everything be able to have some kind of 'mechanism' to answer my question?

This may be a rather metafysical and filosofical question, but then again the real purpose of science is to know things...
I'm curious; would you have a solution?
What would the science we have untill now, answer?
CAN science even answer my question??

I mean, it's a logical question, isn't it?

If a theorie of everything can't answer it, than it's not a theorie of everything, because it doesn't even explain the REAL beginning.

The theorie may help us to be able to do a lot more things than now; but when we don't know everything, then maybe we would still don't know anything (just like now)...

Secund question...


I saw you said that quantummechanics is nothing more than a statistical interpretation of the incoming data. I kind of believe you!!

Maybe Bohr with his Kopenhageninterpretation just wanted to sell a book or something... by making an interpretation which is consistent but which he knows can never be right...

Now, the thing is quantummechanics is really the best proven theorie untill now... I have the opinion it CAN be interpretated by us; but I also think the interpretations we have now are wrong!

I mean... you have to be crazy to believe them...
And they just answer my opinion with: 'the truth is crazy'...
But when the truth is crazy; than why am I not crazy? Because I'm a part of the truth.

So here is my question...
Couldn't there be another way to interpretate quantummechanics than using statistical methods?
Couldn't we just kind of 'invent' a new math to interpretate the incoming data?

If quantummechanics is really nothing more than a statistical interpretation, then maybe the whole theorie is just SUBJECTIVE!
The incoming data are real but than the statistical interpretation could be SUBJECTIVE!
The purpose of science is to know things in an OBJECTIVE way...

Another thing...


You know that quantummechanics would never existed without positivism...

Positivism is 'first SEE and than believe'...

How could we be so sure that everything we PERCEIVE is the total OBJECTIVITY?

I mean... for example things you SEE; first lots of fotons are falling on your retine of your eye; than a fotochemical reaction starts; bringing a signal to your brain where you start to INTERPRETATE the incoming data and an image gets formed...

HOW COULD WE EVER BE SURE THIS IMAGE IS THE TOTAL OBJECTIVITY, WHEN IT GETS INTERPRETATED BY A BRAIN WHICH IS NOT OUTSIDE THE WORLD, BUT WHICH IS JUST A PART OF IT???
SO MY OPINION IS THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A THEORIE OF EVERYTHING, IT'S ONLY POSSIBLE TO HAVE A THEORIE WHICH GIVES A PERFECT DISCRIPTION OF WHAT HUMANS PERCEIVE!!
The problem is... without positivism we're stuck... we can't continue...
It could also be possible that this positivism is the real cause of the interpretationproblems we have with quantummechanics!

Ok, we are all perceiving the world the same way; because we all have the same brainstructure...
But does this prove that what we perceive is the OBJECTIVE TRUTH??
I personally think not, I THINK IT JUST PROVES WE HAVE THE SAME IMAGE OF THE OBJECTIVE TRUTH!! I THINK IT ONLY PROVES WE ARE LOOKING TO REALITY THE SAME WAY!!

When you for example think of reality beiing ONLY atoms and energy, than you ALREADY have a truth which is totally different than the world WE, humans, perceive... (because when I'm shopping for example I don't buy atoms...)

Third question


Would we really be stuck without using positivism and when we would only use mathimatics?? (the only LOGICAL language, without interpretation)




Fourth (and last question...)
(it's again a rather filosofical and metafysical one; but I'm just curious what the science we have now thinks about it...)

I have seen people with Alzheimer...
This gives me the opinion that without a brain we cannot be conscious, we cannot think or feel or perceive, we cannot create things...

Of course I know that a human brain is built from millions of neurons having billions of connections... so they are microscopic little and they are built in a very very extreme intelligent way... I kind of see them as AI...

It's just this very intelligent building of the brain (which we can't built ourselves) which makes me believe in kind of 'a force' which created this?

But I have made a logical deduction and now I don't know what to think anymore...

WHEN A HUMAN NEEDS A BRAIN TO CREATE THINGS, THAN 'THE FORCE' WOULD NEED A BRAIN TO TO BE ABLE TO CREATE US OR THE WORLD!!!

SO MY QUESTION IS... HOW DOES THE SCIENCE WE HAVE NOW EXPLAIN THIS?????

And one final thing...

I don't know anything about the mathimatics used in quantummechanics...

But I'm interested in what they mean (if they mean something of course...)

And indead, when I read two books of interpretation of quantummechanics, than I read two different interpretations...

So, would you know a book with only interpretations (and logical thinking) and no maths... which is the RIGHT interpretation???

[Drifter]

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~theunify

I think perhaps it's been resurrected as a 'Nationwide is on your side' Commercial.
"Where Am I going with this Carl?" disappearing ~lol

Perhaps a little too much T.V.? lol