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    Re: The randomness of Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    I.C., what is this materialism, you keep referring to, your ideal of the Rennaissance period? Don't answer, I'm not interested... You should try to understand some real science of the mind, my friend...

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    Materialism, is the belief that "matter" is the fundamental reality of the universe and that mind and consciousness are pure motions and interactions of matter.

    And, quantum physics has established that as false !

    Your so-called real science of the mind is based on materialism and science based on materialism is pseudo or false science. That is proven fact.

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    Re: The randomness of Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Consciousness View Post
    Materialism, is the belief that "matter" is the fundamental reality of the universe and that mind and consciousness are pure motions and interactions of matter.

    And, quantum physics has established that as false !

    Your so-called real science of the mind is based on materialism and science based on materialism is pseudo or false science. That is proven fact.

    The only proven fact here, is your ignorance of both science and spirit...

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    Re: The randomness of Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    The only proven fact here, is your ignorance of both science and spirit...

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    The object of a TOE is the unification of differences, not the dis-unification of ideas...

    There is a saying that applies here - re "The only proven fact here, is my ignorance of both science and spirit. Would you mind showing everyone here at ToeQuest the proof of my ignorance of both science and spirit without a lot of empty words and Bs - put up or shut up.

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    Re: The randomness of Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Consciousness View Post
    There is a saying that applies here - re "The only proven fact here, is my ignorance of both science and spirit. Would you mind showing everyone here at ToeQuest the proof of my ignorance of both science and spirit without a lot of empty words and Bs - put up or shut up.
    You just showed the proof...

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    "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
    "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
    "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
    "The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.

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    Re: The randomness of Evolution

    Re: The randomness of Evolution - Today, 08:42 PM
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    The irrefutable proof that Science as materialism cannot be the answer is the established fact that it "cannot be tested." [This is pure ignorance of science, and an outright lie.]

    A theory such as materialism is called scientific if it "can be tested" with scientific methodology to determine its true or false status if it "cannot be tested" then the theory is not scientific.

    "Materialism As An Absolute"[Your own personal deffinition. I have only used absolute fecetiously to back you spiritists down, and never mentioned materialism as an absolute, nor do I think anyone else has, except you.] very clearly establishes that the science of materialism "can not be tested " and therefore is pseudo or false science that is not scientific and definitely is not true science. [How would anyone as unscientific as you, know anything about science?]

    What is established here is the irrefutable fact that not only "materialism" is false science because it "cannot be tested" but "science" per se based on materialism is likewise false or pseudo science. [This is pure unadulteratedly false.]

    Materialism as science is dead --- Science as materialism is dead ! ! ! ! !
    I.C., what is this materialism, you keep referring to, your ideal of the Rennaissance period? Don't answer, I'm not interested... You should try to understand some real science of the mind, my friend...

    regards, LG

    Lloyd, this post is an insult to the intelligence of every member and guest here at ToeQuest. You cannot make anything true by empty words. If you are an expert in science as you pretend will you please explain how and why a scientific theory that has not and cannot be tested can be passed off by you as true science ?????

    Stop insulting everyone's intelligence and then there may be a better attitude here at ToeQuest.

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    Re: The randomness of Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Consciousness View Post
    Stop insulting everyone's intelligence and then there may be a better attitude here at ToeQuest.
    If I saw intelligence, I certainly would not insult it. I have the highest regard for truth and intelligence. I also value my own integrity to recognize it... BTW, I only insulted you, because you insulted first...

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    Re: The randomness of Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    If I saw intelligence, I certainly would not insult it. I have the highest regard for truth and intelligence. I also value my own integrity to recognize it... BTW, I only insulted you, because you insulted first...

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    Lloyd your words are empty - they have no content - Your awareness is grounded in matter - you have eyes but you cannot see - you have ears but you cannot hear - and your heart is hardened against the words of Truth.

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    Re: The randomness of Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Consciousness View Post
    Lloyd your words are empty - they have no content - Your awareness is grounded in matter - you have eyes but you cannot see - you have ears but you cannot hear - and your heart is hardened against the words of Truth.
    IC, I stopped considering the "Great White Pumpkin", the talking/thinking head in the sky, when I was 13. I now know the world and universe as the "randomness of evolution".

    "Spirit and matter___The greater can always produce the lesser. The lesser can never produce the greater. Matter is scientifically the greater substance than spirit. This is true even to spiritists." me

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    "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
    "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
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    Re: The randomness of Evolution

    Dear Peoples ...

    No one should be offended by what Michael and I say to each other as we are constantly doing this in PM's.

    We are always differing in opinion

    Also, Michael, a few posts back, you referred to a land that was once where Antartica was. I think you will find that this was called Gondwana Land. it consisted of Australia, India, and Antartica.

    greg
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    Thank you Greg,that was the name,and apparently this was the continent of Lemuria
    that was before Atlantis.It seems to have been lost in the mists of time.
    Evolution is a powerful surging force within the present cycle of manifested existance,it
    motions all its charges into fuller and more expansive receptabilty to stimuli and responsiveness,it dynamically urges its charges to unfold into a more open and vibrant
    aspect of itself.
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