[michellemfry]

I have an ignorance dilemna, but am too ashamed to ask the truth.
It is about what is Jewish. I am a rebellious catholic. Isn't Israel a male figure that once lived and died among the people that became the nation that finally settled into the land of Israel with the capitol of Jerusalem and is based upon some political leaning towards Zionism, or a belief in something deep and sustaining in Zion, like a strand of DNA that is passed on in conception by the male parent in 50% amount to the child to be united with the 50% strand from the female strand unless you are Mary and then it's an entirely different lecture.

So why does Bush say Israel should defend herself if Israel is a man who lived and died and is forevermore saved in the place of his own as his own and not to be taken away and given to graverobbers and used in defiled ways by others. It is his, it is Israel's beginning that started in the stars and hung there without any help from any but God and the Universe until the end of his days when the stars fell from the sky leaving him no place to be anymore.
God was the I am thing that was in the Universe that took care of all things.
Supernovas opened up the end all things for some things. The death of stars was seen to be the reason that the brightening of the sky for a month or more at times would occur, and then history would allow several of these to be added together, then the whole sky would be viewed using CCD's and equipment to record large pieces of sky to capture more SN's at once, and judge them all at once, when for centuries, each one was taken as the sudden event it was given as, the sudden release of energy as a star suddenly explodes into a supernova to possibly form a black hole or a neutron star or a third alternative not yet thought of.

Yet, the Universe is said to be accelerating based upon this data that has been gathered in haste and haste double checked in the same manner and scientific discipline that was used the first time around.
So, the universe is acclerating at a pace that is faster and faster. We worried about slowing down and dying or floating away into nothingness.
The third option was not covered. The faster and faster yet option that takes all that energy generated in Cold Fusion Of Creation and the Jewish thing is what I need to ask about but am too shy to ask. Is Israel a He, a She, a Country, a Religion, a Nation, a Language?
I am not anti-semitic, I lack even the fundamentals to begin any process for or against. I am for peace, process, formula, medication, teachings, whatever form it comes in.

[jim barlow]

Michelle, I don't know what it means to be Jewish. I think it is similar to being an Arthurian Knight in search of that bidet or something. It is a folk tradition creating very close cooperation among its members, giving a deep meaning to their lives and causing them a lot of suffering from their environment which resents their exclusivity and considering themselves "chosen" while nobody else is.

I think there are problems with no solution. To be sure a lot of things can be analyzed and put back together (see science) but there are things which simply cannot be analyzed successfully (see social science) and solved to everyone's satisfaction. Insoluble problems inhere in the world no matter what they say. One has to live with them.

[yossarian]

Originally Posted by pbecke

Guille, maybe there is a theory no-one has yet hit upon, to unify the various forces constituting a unified field theory; maybe there is not.

It seems to me that what you state as a requirement of science is simply what you consider to be desirable. Science can and does exist without meeting your demand for an irreducible minimum key to explain everything.

Whatever TOE may or may not be, what I am sure it cannot be, is something co-terminous with the reductionist, closed physical system that many scientists today as well as many naive non-scientists, who are only aware of Newtonian mechanistic physics, feel they must insist upon as the paradigm of all knowledge; particularly in the US, where atheists seem almost unstable in the hositility of their convictions, or rather the manner in which they presume to impose them. They "insistently insist upon insisting upon" a belief in a wholly materialist view of everything. Reductionist empirical science is therefore God, and they are its high priests.

This despite the hilarious fact that the greatest, most innovative scientific thinkers have generally been, not just theists, but religious "nuts". Galileo (yes, Galileo had wanted to be a priest, but his very powerful father prevented him), Newton, who scorned even mathematics, I believe, though it may have been physics or perhaps more likely both), and Einstein, who most significantly - particularly in view of your social concerns for science - once stated:

"I believe that the horrifying deterioration in the ethical conduct of people today stems from the mechanization and dehumanization of our lives - the disastrous by-product of the scientific and technical mentality. Nostra culpa. Man grows cold faster than the planet he inhabits."

For me, physical light is the interface with the world of the spirit, with the creator/matrix of any cosmos and all possible creations; a world of unfathomable mystery.

I should mention in relation with an earlier post of mine that I posited a paradox, a physical light-spiritual light continuum, but however plausible and eventually even accepted as a genuine paradox it may be, (I place immense store on anecdotal evidence, most notably re the existence and appearance of ghosts, for example) - it is a bit unsettling even to me to posit it other than in a tentative manner, since it takes us into an altogther new and infinite framework of reference, in which mysteries are going to supersede empirically demonstrable facts: an impassable frontier of empirical science. It's a hybrid, so I wouldn't claim it to be more than a putative paradox.

wow, I couldn't have said that better myself.

::golf claps::

[pbecke]

Thanks, Yossarian/golf. Not sure of poster'd id.

[Despina]

Pbecke,

Be carful of generalization.

[yossarian]

Originally Posted by Despina

Pbecke,

Be carful of generalization.

generally be careful of generalizations, of did you have a specific generalization in mind?

[Despina]

I was just making reference to Pbeckes statement regarding athiesm!
I enjoyed his/her post as I do reading many here; refreshing when i am struggling to adapted new paths!

[joynesy08]

I am a fan of Stephen hawking, and it was him who got my mind working and thinking in peculiar ways. Im 17 years old but believe i may have a slight understanding of a theory of parallel universes. I believe that Stephen hawking has came up with the idea that our mind lives in a number of universes but our physical form only seems to be in one. His theory is that it may just be our mind that tells us that we are in this physical state and this one only, but i agree with the fact that another part of our brains may be controlling the body in different ways, and may have "a mind of its own". Basically i believe our brain is split into so many different sections which do not interact with each other. One of the things that pushed me into the direction of believing in this theory is that our dreams can sometimes be so independent to themselves therefore having us having no idea where the thought of that dream came from. Most people believe its just a random act of our brains and its nothing more than imagination... yes this may be true, but why stop there and use that as the main reason. I have always thought further than the obvious truth. Could our dreams be part of our brains from a parallel universe and information leaking into the mind we know. Could the dream world actually be the real world in a parallel universe? As there is no real and factual reason for dreams.. why block this theory out?...

But this is not yet the point my personal question.

It has been said that drugs send you into a sort of dream-related world. As you will understand this is the reason for drug addicts to take them. The "buzz" from the drug makes them think random things but they enjoy the feeling. If drugs do make you enter a sort of dream world, could a certain drug be the answer to find out more about our personal parallel universe? Could something so simple be the solution to a such complicated theory?

[jim barlow]

I think certain chamicals can give us glimpses of interesting horizons. If I may use an analogy and compare this to flying, than drugs seem to be rather like a baloon (harder to direct) than lets say an airplane.

What would be the "airplane" in this instance? Electronic sensing of and stimulation of the brain. We will discover step by step, I have no doubt, those multi-dimensional horizons we are talking about here.

Separate egos fizzle out instantly as each of us (who cares to) enters this gigantic panorama of novelty and the repetition of the common elements like blades of grass in endless fields.

Drugs then will be honored as grand fathers of this evolution. Like the first crude wings tentatively appearing as evolutionary tentacles feeling their way in the dark: yes? no? yes..

[dleviwing]

Take an extension cord and strip the insulation off the socket end (cut the socket off first). Tape the bare wires to your temples and plug it in the wall; you’ll get the same effect as the drugs.

Be sure to have someone around to unplug you though.

Personally I prefer my brain to be functioning within the design parameters.