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    Re: Is there an absolute Principle?

    Then what IS, absolutely ISN'T, but not relatively speaking.

    The absolute rest doesn't exist and that's the "whole point," RP. The absolute-center point of all relative measurements of spherical motion can't exist because it is not part of the motion that is measured.

    We can then say that what is consciously detected, observed, interpreted and categorized as existence, is dependent upon the non-existent point - G = mc^2; or simply G = mc, where "c" is representative of absolute speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0B0DY View Post
    Then what IS, absolutely ISN'T, but not relatively speaking.

    The absolute rest doesn't exist and that's the "whole point," RP. The absolute-center point of all relative measurements of spherical motion can't exist because it is not part of the motion that is measured.

    We can then say that what is consciously detected, observed, interpreted and categorized as existence, is dependent upon the non-existent point - G = mc^2; or simply G = mc, where "c" is representative of absolute speed.

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    Re: Is there an absolute Principle?

    Quote Originally Posted by N0B0DY View Post
    Then what IS, absolutely ISN'T, but not relatively speaking.

    The absolute rest doesn't exist and that's the "whole point," RP. The absolute-center point of all relative measurements of spherical motion can't exist because it is not part of the motion that is measured.

    We can then say that what is consciously detected, observed, interpreted and categorized as existence, is dependent upon the non-existent point - G = mc^2; or simply G = mc, where "c" is representative of absolute speed.
    The operative words here, as I see it, pertain to relative interpretation. For example, 'not relatively speaking'.

    The non existent absolute center point is the intersecting cross haired point from which all motion measurement is derived.

    A specified geometric point is a reference from which events and duration unfold.
    The non existent geometric point has a paramount value as a coordinate from and by which motion is determined.

    Is not motion, relative to predetermined localities, at least a facet of absolute principle?

    Indeed, "We can then say that what is consciously detected, observed, interpreted and categorized as existence, is dependent upon the non-existent point - G = mc^2; or simply G = mc, where "c" is representative of absolute speed." (Does not 'c', vary, from place to place and time to time, and is that not also an absolute principle?)

    With no puns intended, what point am I missing here?

    Is not all motion relative to given points of reference and coordinate systems, and, are not these relative points of reference necessary in the measurement and determination of all dynamics?

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    Re: Is there an absolute Principle?

    Yes on all counts, RP, but I disagree with the notion of relative absolutes, whereby relative quantifications are derived from absolute motion. Einstein rid the universe of the absolute background frame, but not the carriage of the absolute frame.

    To me, principles are suggestive of the relative laws of universal functioning, and they are always dualistic laws. If we are saying that the whole of the relativistic laws are one, then I guess they can be considered absolute principles. Yet, like the toe, the absolute point at which everything becomes one is the same point in spacetime that everything becomes none.

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    Re: Is there an absolute Principle?

    Still cogitating.
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    (George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

    "All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
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    "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid

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    Quote Originally Posted by RascalPuff View Post
    Still cogitating.
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    You are part of that principle my dear friend!Look don't you see it!



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    Re: Is there an absolute Principle?

    Would you say that a part of the absolute is apart from the absolute, Michael?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0B0DY View Post
    Would you say that a part of the absolute is apart from the absolute, Michael?
    No I would not,think about it Nobody,how or what could do the parting?And what would be the point?If it were possible?



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    Re: Is there an absolute Principle?

    I think it impossible to impart an impartial point regarding a part of a whole as being apart, Michael. So I agree there's absolutely no point to it, as is the case with RP being a part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0B0DY View Post
    I think it impossible to impart an impartial point regarding a part of a whole as being apart, Michael. So I agree there's absolutely no point to it, as is the case with RP being a part of it.

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