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Logic - 04-16-2008, 11:52 AM

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Aristotle said A = B, which led him to C
But for me A = B, which leads simply to =, to TOE.
Do you agree with Aristotle or me?

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Re: Logic - 04-16-2008, 01:34 PM

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Aristotle said A = B, which led him to C
But for me A = B, which leads simply to =, to TOE.
Do you agree with Aristotle or me?

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It is a trial or a progress for a thinker being led to C, hopefully a step en route to TOE!

On contrast, simply/oversimplified to = means empty at both sides.
That is just a retreat/emptiness/confusion, no longer of any practical use (unless thru subjective interpretations).

If someone insists that TOE is such an easily obtained emptiness or confusion or useless notation, that person disrespects TOE!

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Re: Logic - 04-16-2008, 02:25 PM

MJA, could you expand on your question, please. Perhaps you could quote what Aristotle said, and how what he said differ from your beliefs. As it is, this seems to be a thread with no purpose, other than to push your usual "= is the way" message. If you have nothing more to add, then there is no merit to this thread.


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Re: Logic - 04-16-2008, 02:37 PM

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MJA, could you expand on your question, please. Perhaps you could quote what Aristotle said, and how what he said differ from your beliefs. As it is, this seems to be a thread with no purpose, other than to push your usual "= is the way" message. If you have nothing more to add, then there is no merit to this thread.


Aristotle said: If A = B, and B = C, then A = C.
Then it is true to say that for Aristotle what began with A = B led to his conclusion of C.
For me A = B leads simply to the solution of TOE., =.
With whom do you agree?

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Re: Logic - 04-16-2008, 02:52 PM

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With whom do you agree?
If I have a choice I would pick Euclid since he incorporated 3 distinct categories of equality: 1. reflexive 2. symmetric 3. transitive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_(mathematics) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle


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Re: Logic - 04-16-2008, 02:58 PM

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Aristotle said: If A = B, and B = C, then A = C.
Then it is true to say that for Aristotle what began with A = B led to his conclusion of C.
Actually, it's not. In the statement "if A=B and B=C then A=C" the assumptions are both "A=B" and "B=C." Without the second piece of information, one cannot draw the conclusion that A=C.


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Re: Logic - 04-16-2008, 11:18 PM

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Actually, it's not. In the statement "if A=B and B=C then A=C" the assumptions are both "A=B" and "B=C." Without the second piece of information, one cannot draw the conclusion that A=C.
I agree Neutralino,

So take the if or assumption out of the equation and what then is your answer, Aristotle or me?

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Re: Logic - 04-16-2008, 11:28 PM

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If I have a choice I would pick Euclid since he incorporated 3 distinct categories of equality: 1. reflexive 2. symmetric 3. transitive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_(mathematics) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle
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Just because your so dang smart does not give you the right to complicate the simplicity of my questions. If you wouldn't mind keeping Euclid out of it, I would be most greatful. Complexity AL is what obscures the simple truth, so lets uncover the truth through simplification shall we?
Socrates whould have loved this game.
So try again, Aristotle or me?

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Re: Logic - 04-16-2008, 11:42 PM

I'll go with Aristotle on this one. His follows order and logic, yours is more of a cute little phrase.

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Re: Logic - 04-17-2008, 10:15 AM

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I'll go with Aristotle on this one. His follows order and logic, yours is more of a cute little phrase.

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Yeah! but it's MJA's cute little phrase,

and that's what makes him so cute and unique.

I believe = can mean anything you want it to mean.

Today = means ONENESS

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