It's All About The Money

[SB_UK]

... ... and recognize, it's always been system's evolutions__That's always saved the day ... ...

Absolutely - these ideas (ToE) represent a mechanism for evolution
- represent a mechanism for evolution defining (and forcing) System's evolution in the human mind and the social structure within which human individuals interact.

ToE is (as such) the mechanism of evolution
- where evolution is a synonym for System's evolution.

Evolution deals in the speciation of species (whether live or not)
- where the species is a System.

[labelwench]

Just a comment regarding money, in the wake of the Haiti disaster.

Money, money, money, is what is being solicited over household goods.

Why?

Money is a medium of exchange that can be transferred immediately and deployed on site, or closer to same, in the acquisition of the goods and services required, whereas all other products will have associated costs in the handling and transportation of them over great distance. Certainly, water, food, first aid, communication and emergency shelter are needed, and the appropriate agencies have the responsibility to determine the best sourcing and deployment of same.

An example of where money is the most useful commodity of exchange, the primary need being the motivation of mankind to come to the aid of their brethren.

[Profpat]

Paper money with a blue cheese salad dressing can be very tasty.

[SB_UK]

Just a comment regarding money, in the wake of the Haiti disaster.

Exactly as described in my response to you relating to the aged not being able to perform physically demanding tasks -
- money got us into this mess
- we'd do best to acknowledge this and to look elsewhere for a solution.

The solution might come from a new global economic system
- though as long as the current economic system preys on poor countries such as Haiti

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavily...Poor_Countries
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- expecting the current economic system to step in and help is an expectation too far.

~*~

The current economic system engineers dependence appeases its conscience with so-called charities
- does not result in local empowerment (change for the better)
- does not result in people being helped to take control of production of their daily bread ... ... ...

The current economic system is more akin to a Class A illicit narcotic salesman than an ayurvedic Herbal remedy medicine man in its capacity for delivering decent sustainable remedial action ... ... ...

- which is all to say that one shouldn't hold out much hope of money coming to the rescue
- the current economic system and money currently (as debt (and particularly so in Haiti's case)) as bad.

[SB_UK]

... ... money currently as bad.

Trumped only by people being bad, exactly as R.P.Bibra describes of money's poor efforts rarely even being felt
- as percentages are taken by any and all parties (in the chain between the rich and the needy)
- by all parties which're able.

It's difficult to claim that any who steal from a charitable fund are any worse than the average banker or lawyer who claims many times more than the National average wage for their soon to be unnecessary dishonest days work.

The problem then of the expression of 'original sin' in every level of human interaction resulting in every level of human interaction being doomed to (at some point) failure.

People just can't keep their hands from out of the cash register; the problem being compounded when taking from the till becomes a morality call
- should one reduce one's standard fee if one's current task is in helping those who have been struck by calamity.

Making the same point though using a less extreme example.

Shouldn't prices for survival essential products be less for those with less money?

The solution

Simple - take away the potential to cheat by introducing a global one~wage system in which all people receive the same level of remuneration (personally)
- in which all people are granted the same buying power
- in which no person can obtain more.

Introduce such a system and human beings will be freed from the fatal allure of original sin
- will be empowered to express a higher calling
- will be able to turn away from their personal daemons

... ... will be a relative (to now) free.

[SB_UK]

... where money as bad ...

Trumped only by people being bad

and here's the doozy - 'bad' - as a necessary function of being human.

The 'bad' in {money is bad, people are bad} is an essential part of the second of three developmental stages which human beings may expect to go through

- all things considered then -

measures need be put in place to protect people from themself and people from themselves

... ... where the simplest mechanism to accomplish this goal'd be for one~wage to be introduced alongside a completely separate global currency which (I'm guessing) will represent what

Keynes

actually had in mind.

Two fair systems - one fixed, the other 'variable'.
Each person having the same buying power to choose from a maximally diverse set of products whose price will vary dependent on natural variation (climate for instance) and not human selfish greed based measures

Yaaa - up the price by one percentage point this year and we can all have an extra week in the sun this Summer; I hear it's due to be a scorcher.

of income pocketable.

~*~

Two global, hierarchically arrayed financial systems for mind:body thence spiritual freedom.

-- >-- body / mind -- >
--->- body /
-- > body /

[SB_UK]

... measures need be put in place to protect people from themself and people from themselves ... ...

The path to {enlightenment,utopia} requires that we obtain a scientific understanding of our place in time -
what we can hope to and what we cannot hope to achieve
- a realistic understanding of our place in time 'warts (original sin) and all'
... ... whereupon and only then
will we be ready for the relative liberty which history directs us to which we aspire.

[labelwench]

People have been 'trading' since before recorded history.

'Money', in the form of fiat currency, credit and debit cards, and promissary notes, is a relatively new medium of exchange, because it is easier to utilize when large sums, great distance and complicated exchanges are involved.

Whatever we choose to exchange, is relevant to our circumstances at the time.

Allow me to bare the mercenery soul of my childhood.

We were living in a remote location, earning our livelihood through trapping furbearing animals and hunting and fishing, which admission I realize may offend some. We lived close to the land, respected nature, and used traditional knowledge to avoid overharvest or the taking of the very young or the mature breeding stock, as these were the future potential for the species and for ourselves.

On one rare trip to towm, each of we three children were given $5.00 that we had earned through many hours of work that contributed to our collective well being. My brothers spent their money on pleasures that were soon gone.

There being few luxuries in our frugal lifestyle, I purchased two bags of milk chocolate chips and took them with us, back to the bush. After about a month, I brought out my stash of sweets, and savored them, one by one, a few at a time. My brothers wanted to partake, but I was not required to share by communal law, as these were my spoils, purchased with my own wages, yet, I gave them each a few.

This but whetted their appetite, and soon commerce took over. Now that my brothers knew I had chocolate, there was no place safe from their eyes to hide my goodies that would not be plundered, though not admitted to. Therefore, they offered me one penny per chocolate chip, and when we next went to town, I was money ahead.

A true story, of how my conservative nature has lead me astray......

[SB_UK]

... ...there was no place safe from their eyes to hide my goodies that would not be plundered, though not admitted to.

Original sin.

Awww just one, two, a few ... ...
sure taking them all won't hurt - I betcha' sis didn't really want 'em anyway
... ... and who's to say that she won't come home and be on some kinda' stange female diet thing and choose to just plain throw 'em away ... ? ... ...

Well if that happens, I sure will be doing 'er a favour; it's a sin (so says baby Jesus) to waste ... ... ... after all

{{{shrugs sincerely*}}}

* Original sin can do that.

~*~

Original sin is simply being able to shut off the logical part of the mind and demonstrate some level of immorality; with wisdom comes

enforced moral consistency

as the individual gains freedom from the mind controlling aspects of original sin ... ...
... ... from the thick pea souper... ...
- a total blackout ... ...
- the incapacity for sense to overrule the grasping selfish mind.

Prior to constraint by morality, the individual will find a reason (no matter how far-fetched) to feed his or her own ego -
Labelwench versus Labelmench chocolate drops representing a case in (albeit low-key) point of the all-pervasiveness of original sin.

It gets blimmin' everywhere which is to be expected since it's an essential attribute of the immature mind - an essential attribute which is absolutely required by the immature mind in the immature mind's plight to become 'better'.

Just a case of shifting the individual's desire away from better (than another person) into better {period}; it's really not that hard to beat people
- much harder and more rewarding (ultimately though) to become better for oneself without any other person needing to lose.

The importance of 'greed'**.

** An evolutionarily shifting definition thereof.

[SB_UK]

It's All About The Money

The current financial collapse has been timed to co-incide with the widespread take-up of the Internet and has been engineered by (I would suggest) a group of religious communities (to be imagined as the Jedi Council)
- the classical Missionary approach of sending people out to 'spread the word' taking too darn long with the message becoming garbled in the process.

So if they want an apocalyp$e, then an apocalyp$e they shall duly receive.

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