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    Re: It's All About The Money

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    That wealth, resources and opportunity are not equally accessible, we seem to view similarly.
    Yes

    That persons desire different experience of their personal journey does pose a difficulty in defining a "level playing field."
    Not if one confers equal potential to all.
    A fixed one World salary would accomplish this.
    If we were all given a battery - some would place it in an ipod, others in powered secateurs -
    some into portable DVD players.
    We maximize the options by conferring the same potential to all.

    The poor may be able to dream of becoming rich in this current rotten system -
    - but it doesn't happen for the very vast majority.

    Remove the delusion and replace it with a very real better; the plan will begin to work when people see that there are billions of people working for each other.

    Imagine how nice it'd be if we all worked for each other -
    - imagine the number of video games we'd have to play,
    the amount of music available to listen to,
    the number of sculpted gardens we could visit (and take cuttings from) ... ...

    (personal empowerment
    - an end to experts (after all))

    We would feel happy that there are so many people on the planet - because we'd benefit from others' exploits
    - rather than the present situation where any benefit realised
    co$t$
    more than it's worth -
    - and where the lack of space makes most wish that it'd be for the best if 99% of the population could be wiped offa' the face of the planet
    such that whoever is left
    could
    breathe.

    The world owes none of us a living,
    The justification which people with money use to maintain the status quo
    - often one finds this type of argument descending into citing 'the rules of the jungle'
    - we are no longer animals though -
    - we're trying to educate ourselves away from the laws of the jungle.
    The jungle knows competition -
    man knows only collaboration.

    We're no longer animals
    - no longer physical level constructs
    - cannot tolerate people who prevent us from getting over physical world concerns -
    - where one wage for all stops all of the nonsense.

    Why can't we tolerate the rich?
    Because all people are enmeshed within a one world system or species -
    we can't simply exist by black boxing the rich -
    - their wealth exerts an effect outside of their immediate sphere of influence and pervades the life of all other people regardless.

    Much like good cannot exist without evil -
    - the rich require poor for self-definition.

    yet we seemingly inherit a "will to survive", even in the face of adversity.
    The tendency to evolve to complexity is the only trick which energy has to wield.
    Our will to survive is our human experiential perspective over our own 'build'
    - our own construction 'atop the Second Law of Thermodynamics -


    - our own expression of the energetic component which gives rise to structure -
    - all structures
    - structure representing the commonality between all things in our coherent Universe of action.

    (A function of nerve, recognition, the 'lock and key' model of enzyme-substrate
    - always structure)

    A humane or enlightened society should, in my opinion, work toward caretaking our common resource, the planet earth, and ensuring that each person and creature receives the birthright of access to the resources needed to survive, and, it is hoped, thrive and experience the happiness of it's kind.
    A fixed salary to all (conferring the same potential to all people) will achieve exactly this.

    From my observations, no matter how equal the starting point, and the sustaining environment, equality is an ideal, as unattainable as perfection in a breed standard for a dog, a horse or a rose.
    Equality has multiple meanings -
    - all human beings have a head
    (note - not a mind)
    - this is an equality.

    A discussion of equality will require that we tread carefully -
    explaining our words at each stage of the discussion.

    We'd all like to see maximal permissible variability
    - this can be achieved by ensuring that all people are afforded the exact same quantitative pluripotency (the same freedom to choose).

    A fixed salary to all (conferring the same potential to all people) will achieve exactly this.

    Although the ideal is aknowledged to be unattainable, it is a mutually observed value because it grants us a common denominator to work with, as no two human (or creature) perspectives can ever be exactly the same.

    We're not striving to generate a population of clones
    - this is not the definition of equality which we're striving for
    - that'd be dull -
    - we're seeking fun -
    where fun is achieved when there's most to do
    (to occupy our minds)
    - is best achieved on a population level when we're afforded the same potential to mobilize the human creativity which we all
    ~by definition~
    of being human
    share.

    A fixed salary to all (conferring the same potential to all people) will achieve exactly this.

    Two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time.
    - this is not the definition of equality which we're striving towards -
    we're not seeking perfect clonal behaviour within the exact same sector of time-space -
    - even if it were possible -
    what'd be the point.

    Evolution requires a scaleable structure which
    (with each additional level or abstraction layer)
    results
    in an exponential increase in the potential energy stored within the structure.

    This geometric evolutionary tendency and this tendency alone explains away all aspects of the reality within which we inhabit.

    All we require is a a pattern of evolution of energy -
    when that energy exceeds the carrying capacity of a sector of time:space -
    - and from this geometric progression (by order) -
    - and this progression alone -
    - we can regenerate our entire reality.

    ~*~

    Apologies haven't time to proof-read this post
    - need to go out -
    - will pick up the post from here in an hour or so ... ... ...

    Even without a universal definition for the terms "space" and "time", that seems to explain our individuality.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: It's All About The Money

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    What is money- again?

    http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/18696/48



    People hide in a sea of words -- THAT is how 'we' withhold the real SEEING for the sake of $$$.


    http://www.chopra.com/jesus
    Help/heaven is at hand -- SHE is Love

    S/HE is 'you' and 'i' ---Intuition.

    Rapture_ The second coming of Christ is THIS HereNow-NowHere

    Where else can it be.

    This is Love -What else could it be.

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    Re: It's All About The Money

    Quote Originally Posted by SB_UK View Post
    With each passing day I find it harder to handle {all of the above TV}
    - people abusing other people for the majority of their lives
    because the system requires it.

    ~*~
    TV is the medium in which the false ''Ruling Elite's' use to manipulate- brainwash- subdue, and dumb-down the masses.

    They do this by making them feel that there is a sense of lacking, consequently an inadequate and fearful society is born.
    When we are in fear we turn to those that promise to help.(AUTHORITARIAN RULING BODIES)

    -this is a BIG MISTAKE- as they are really disempowering you with a false sense of security-all for the sake of their $$$$ earned--Money is the problem.

    We are working to live, rather than living to work.

    '' Show me what I was interested in - before I was told I had to earn a living ''

    So, Does TV ever empower the people by showing them how they can awaken to their divine consciousness? - NO
    ''They'' do not want you to know that.

    Even though unbeknown to us it is our divine birthright.
    It is our original status.

    TV and money-- is poison evil incarnate.

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    Re: It's All About The Money

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    TV is the medium in which the false ''Ruling Elite's' use to manipulate- brainwash- subdue, and dumb-down the masses.

    They do this by making them feel that there is a sense of lacking, consequently an inadequate and fearful society is born.
    When we are in fear we turn to those that promise to help.(AUTHORITARIAN RULING BODIES)

    -this is a BIG MISTAKE- as they are really disempowering you with a false sense of security-all for the sake of their $$$$ earned--Money is the problem.

    We are working to live, rather than living to work.

    '' Show me what I was interested in - before I was told I had to earn a living ''

    So, Does TV ever empower the people by showing them how they can awaken to their divine consciousness? - NO
    ''They'' do not want you to know that.

    Even though unbeknown to us it is our divine birthright.
    It is our original status.

    TV and money-- is poison evil incarnate.
    ''THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU''

    There is nothing wrong with your mind-

    There is nothing wrong with your teeth-

    There is nothing wrong with your health-

    There is nothing wrong with your intelligence-

    There is nothing wrong with your thinking-

    There is nothing wrong with your appearance-

    There is nothing wrong with your relationships-

    There is nothing wrong with your children-

    There is nothing wrong with your pets-

    There is nothing wrong with your life-

    There is nothing wrong with the world-

    You do not need IN-SURANCE for what is basically alreadY (IN) sure and free = (Consciousness)


    THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU -- Unless 'YOU' think there IS

    Do not buy into false fearing money making 'manmade' belief systems -- they are not 'what' 'who' 'you' are.

    'YOU' are infinite divine eternal Consciousness.

    That is where your true riches lie. Not in this transient illusory materialism (A lie)

    Freedom only at ZERO POINT.

    You can find it NOW --- it is free.

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    Re: It's All About The Money

    YOU ARE YOUR OWN AUTHOR OF YOUR LIFE.

    From a very young age i realized that the false authority around me
    (mainly teachers) were subject to the very same petty human weaknesses that some of my younger peers were
    (and in many cases, the adults were far worse).

    Nothing shatters the myth of youthful innocence like the discovering that the very people who are entrusted with guiding,
    educating and fostering your intellectual development are insecure idiotic morons more interested in career advancement, competitive one-upmanship,
    and screwing under age girls and boys.

    And in adulthood things go downhill from there
    - with the political authorities that govern our every move & thought
    and make the vindictive power-seeking teachers of our schooling look like veritable saints in comparison.

    The enemy is human ignorance
    (based largely on greed and superiority)
    Always has been. Always will be.
    But unfortunately, human ignorance can not be fought (as one might think) with human intelligence.
    Ignorance carries a bigger stick.
    I've got the bruises to prove it.
    But at least we can take comfort in the words of others who have come to similar conclusions,
    and maybe, use our own form of system sabotage to at least survive.

    Truth is the enemy of power.

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    Re: It's All About The Money

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chopra (first line)
    “What if Jesus wanted his followers—and us—to reach the same unity with God that he had reached?
    exactly
    J'e's'u's
    J'e's'u's

    - at least if we want him to be.

    Understand the world around us and we complete a neural circuit which opens the gates to Heaven.

    The metaphor is trivial when it's explained.

    Gates to Heaven
    Doors to Perception
    not
    Windows of Opportuni$m

    The neural circuit which is opened
    (- to which the metaphor alludes)
    can be traced by joining the dots which're defined by the central anatomic location of action of all illicit drugs on the black market currently -

    - the more severe the addictive potential -
    - the earlier they are to be found in the circuit.

    We didn't ask the right correction.
    We needed to ask why certain natural chemicals had such explicit (enjoyable) effects on the mind.

    Couple this idea with the idea that we need some incentive to progress -
    - instead of demonising drug abusers -

    - and we're there.

    The evidence was right in front of eyes -
    and has been for the longest time.

    We weren't able to understand the writing on the wall -
    because the legacy animal (which resides in man) and which desires money
    gains its raison d'e^tre from the belief that it is better off than another person.

    This is the fundamental basis to the drive which sets in place physical hierarchy -
    is the reason why money is bad -
    - is the reason why current society is not compatibility with humanity
    - explains why we were 'programmed' to look down on rather than understand the addictive drive.

    People liked being able to congratulate themselves on being drug-free -
    - enjoyed being able to look down upon others who they'd claim had less self-discipline.

    We can now unravel the problem and show that the tendency to addiction
    - towards becoming addicted
    is broadly proportional to increased intelligence.

    This idea doesn't mean that intelligent people become drug addicts -
    - its remit is solely as follows -

    - the greater the mental capacity -
    the more the individual is absolutely required (not negotiable) to use it.

    If the individual cannot apply their mind
    (cannot acquire neural stimulation using positive, sustainable avenues (deep abstract thought,daydream *1*)) -
    then the not-negotiable drive for the mind to be stimulated
    results
    in the mind eating itself whilst seeking immediate intense gratification

    - crime, drugs, sex and other generally deletirious high octane activities then beckon.

    We are slaves unto our own minds.

    ~*~

    *1*
    The Daydream -
    8 Hz theta EEG synchrony between mind and the planetary Schumann resonance.
    A pleasant place.

    The mechanistic basis underlying road rage.

    We hit auto-pilot when we drive
    - cannot handle 'chopping and changing' out from theta to higher frequency EEGs
    - which (for instance) traffic jams require
    as we're forced to stop and start.

    ~*~

    The secret to human happiness is to develop the mind until it understands external reality (relatively simple - arises by scaling ToE)
    and then to permit the end form structure of mind to resonate with external reality (the Schumann resonance)
    - to daydream its cares away *2*.

    ... ... ... and that's all there is to it.

    *Money* does not get a look in.

    *Money* is your enemy.

    ~*~

    *2*
    Once in the state of synchrony we arrive at a problem -
    and this problem arises because of money.
    We need to be able to find pursuits which enable us to maintain 'autopilot'
    - where current human society requires the mind to shift out of theta EEG
    and perform inane tasks like talking to other people -
    - or understanding protocols with no intuitive element

    - the problem which one encounters after hitting the ideal (peaceful) state of mind -
    - is that the individual becomes incapable of performing the tasks which our animal society demands -

    - we become persistent daydream believers
    - without patience when required to shift out from our reverie.

    This is the basis to the phrase 'let sleeping dogs lie' -
    and explains away the idea (from the bible some place)
    - that the cherub will step aside from the Tree of Life (for man) -
    - as soon as we've scaled the Tree of Knowledge.

    When one looks at one's daydreaming dog -
    one glimpses the sensation of peace which is ours for the taking

    'cept our sensation of pleasure whilst in that special place
    (of meditative calm)
    will be x2 times better
    - because it'll be experienced by an organism (man with mind) -
    one exponential step up from animals on the evolutionary scale

    - a binary scale which scales by order

    2 4 8 16 32units 64units
    32 units - Fido the dog
    64 units - Fred the human being

    However we shouldn't feel bad for Fido -
    it's the best
    (for him)
    - that it possibly can be.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: It's All About The Money

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    TV is the medium in which the false ''Ruling Elite's' use to manipulate- brainwash- subdue, and dumb-down the masses.

    They do this by making them feel that there is a sense of lacking, consequently an inadequate and fearful society is born.
    When we are in fear we turn to those that promise to help.(AUTHORITARIAN RULING BODIES)

    -this is a BIG MISTAKE- as they are really disempowering you with a false sense of security-all for the sake of their $$$$ earned--Money is the problem.

    We are working to live, rather than living to work.

    '' Show me what I was interested in - before I was told I had to earn a living ''

    So, Does TV ever empower the people by showing them how they can awaken to their divine consciousness? - NO
    ''They'' do not want you to know that.

    Even though unbeknown to us it is our divine birthright.
    It is our original status.

    TV and money-- is poison evil incarnate.
    Absolutely -
    however with the element of the 'blind leading the blind'
    - where the blind are not leading the blind in the wrong direction based on any conscious decision
    - instead are following their own evolutionary legacy desire to be 'better'
    - to stand out over and above
    the rest.

    The diametrically opposed motivation to proper morality has been the underlying motivation of leaders
    everywhere
    ... ... ... until ... ... ... soon.

    Leading without realising their own underlying motivation for desiring power so.

    The animal leader seeks power for himself over others -
    (as underlying subconscious motivation)
    - the human leader seeks (on this physical level) -
    and in marked contrast
    equality (of course) for all.

    Our problems really begin to kick in when physical level inequality occurs after mental level equality (courtesy of ToE) begins to reveal -

    absolutely inconsistent -
    - the two are not compatible

    - the mental equivalent of a short circuit will occur if we do not take action

    - pushing ToE
    (making people of equivalent intelligence) -
    will inevitably lead to people then refusing to accept physical level inequality -

    - from this current perspective
    physical level inequality is just plain wrong

    'bout time we actually did something about it though
    ... ... isn't it?
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: It's All About The Money

    ToE (when reflected onto the evolutionary journey of man)
    - is about 'hitting' a (resonant) structure of mind which is allowed to daydream.

    The daydream represents a specific EEG frequency
    (the frequency which represents the transition between the waking and sleep states)
    - 'theta' EEG.

    - this frequency permits resonation between the mind and planet.

    ~*~

    Following access to this mindspace -
    a new characteristic arises

    - the absolute incapacity to perform any task which requires us to shift out and away from this 'space'.

    Shifting out and away from this space is required in most workplaces -
    - this basic idea explains away why human beings cannot be expected to work in standard 9-5's

    - standard 9-5's counter the human need to hit 'theta'
    - the fear which a physical structure of bosses with the capacity to inflict pain on their subordinates ??
    brings
    - prevents the peace of mind which 'theta'
    ('theta' requires freedom from fear)
    requires.

    ~*~

    This basic idea explains away
    (also)
    - why adults in this state find it hard to give a child what the child desires -

    - and why the best place for children
    for children and for their parents
    - is to spend considerable time around other children from whom they can learn.

    In a scheme in which all people are taught at the same rate - the younger the individual -
    - the more capable the individual is of using their voice.

    The pattern of paradigm model of mind (first mind)
    + education
    ->-
    metamodel model of mind

    is the transition which we're describing here.

    True morality and the inability to speak
    (use of the voice in standard linear communication requires that the mind drops out of the 'theta' state)

    True morality and the inability to speak
    - arises at metamodel web structure of mind.

    The capacity to drop out of 'theta' becomes harder with 'mind'
    - becomes next to impossible following the transition described above

    - speaking (use of one's voice) becomes a task too far -
    writing however -

    - writing in a particular (non-linear) style
    --- not so ---


    - explaining away the styles often read on site
    here -
    - stream of consciousness with peculiarly unambiguous sense -
    - peculiarly unambiguous sense impossible to recapitulate using standard linear language.

    - stream of consciousness
    - the style of communication which meets the specifications set down by certain state of
    (state of mind in 'theta')
    - state of mind.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: It's All About The Money

    Quote Originally Posted by _ View Post
    This basic idea explains away
    (also)
    - why adults in this state find it hard to give a child what the child desires -
    - though which simultaneously (before the thought is out)
    --- defines ---
    the tasks which adults may perform around children -

    - which both adults and children alike can enjoy simultaneously.

    Video games
    Movies
    Music
    Drawing
    Sport
    Gardening
    Walking
    Stretch exercises - yoga
    Dance
    Massage

    as the first few tasks which leap to mind without particularly thinking
    - tasks which both can enjoy without speech being necessarily required
    - permitting both to enjoy the process of magnetization.

    Talking (use of the voice) to people is like pullin' teeth;
    yet another idea (courtesy of ToE) which may now be elevated to 'provably so'.

    With better mind,
    post metamodel web transition
    - speech (use of the voice) becomes close to impossible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky
    I'm a boring speaker
    ~paraphrase~
    - neatly explaining away why charismatic speakers tend to be real bad people

    The gleaming teeth of Silvio Berlusconi leap to mind; an offence (is he) to the (from my experience) very intelligent set of Italian people who I've had the pleasure to encounter in my life.

    Don't trust the charismatic speaker -
    - they're up to no good.

    Hitler, Berlusconi, Mussolini, Thatcher and the Reverend Ian Paisley
    - generalized -

    - the voice of the savage in man; it can be no other way.

    ~*~

    Poorly trained dogs bark;
    properly human beings collaborate.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

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    Re: It's All About The Money

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    ''THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU''

    There is nothing wrong with your mind-

    There is nothing wrong with your teeth-

    There is nothing wrong with your health-

    There is nothing wrong with your intelligence-

    There is nothing wrong with your thinking-

    There is nothing wrong with your appearance-

    There is nothing wrong with your relationships-

    There is nothing wrong with your children-

    There is nothing wrong with your pets-

    There is nothing wrong with your life-

    There is nothing wrong with the world-

    You do not need IN-SURANCE for what is basically alreadY (IN) sure and free = (Consciousness)


    THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU -- Unless 'YOU' think there IS

    Do not buy into false fearing money making 'manmade' belief systems -- they are not 'what' 'who' 'you' are.

    'YOU' are infinite divine eternal Consciousness.

    That is where your true riches lie. Not in this transient illusory materialism (A lie)

    Freedom only at ZERO POINT.

    You can find it NOW --- it is free.
    Absolutely -
    - the advertising campaigns which aims to brainwash us otherwise
    - is there only to $ell.

    Not particularly because the people who would sell are bad -
    solely because they know no different.

    Ask them why? they care so -
    - and there will be no response
    - cannot be any meaningful response

    - capitalism panders to the beast within
    - needs no rational explanation
    - collapses when scrutinized.

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    ''THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU''
    Willem Dafoe on Antichrist (BBC::Hard Talk)
    (last night)

    "All that matters now in Hollywood
    is the accountant, the concerns of the marketing machine and money
    - whilst money has always been the chief concern here -
    with each passing year the situation has worsened
    - until now -
    where only money matters."
    ~paraphrase~

    ART down.

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    ''THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU''
    - until you realise this and release your grip on your neighbour's throat -
    nobody will be free.

    ~*~

    MONEY is your enemy.


    - but don't believe it until you're incapable of restraining yourself (to others)
    - incapable of restraining yourself from explaining to others exactly why -

    - any and every discussion which man has ever had (of any weight)
    *will*
    lead back to the conclusion that the problem rests with the corruption of man

    - the corruption of man
    - which money has been set up to expose.

    ~*~

    Why didn't you ever feel that making $00s of 000s just by virtue of owning a house was wrong ?
    - and who exactly were you expecting would pay for these hefty rewards ?

    you yourself
    (of course) -
    to a minor extent

    - but mostly your children

    ... ... ... but you didn't choose to ask, did you?

    Pretty dumb, huh!

    The problem rests with you; nobody else to carry the buck

    - 'bout time that we demystify human dealings
    - take steps to ensure that recurrence is prevented
    - lift the culture of secrecy which money (patent culture) confers.

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    ''THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU''
    Your fear has been engineered to $ell.
    [ nothing other than killing money the law the savage within (original sin) matters ]

 

 
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