East Meets West Logic...

[SB_UK]

question 1
- to what extent ...?...
((~that is~ who knew? )
were the seeds of our own destruction sewn with full conscious awareness of the consequences.

Burning out human greed was necessary.

Must have required a group with sufficient power and understanding of human beings to know how to form a society in which human greed could be exposed (for all to see).

This must have represented the basis for the Bildeberg meetings and the removal of the gold standard in the 70's; allowing greed to run free.

The consequences of these policies apparent for all to see now -
- the economic crisis is very definitely a one-way road.

&

question 2
- to what extent ...?...
is our current understanding of reality (convergence to ToE) defined by our position in a celestial cycle (precessionary cycle) ?

- a celestial cycle as essential precursor or determinant to the completion of structure of mind ?

Were we incapable of achieving ToE until now-ish ?

~*~

solution 1
Money was engineered to fall -
- nobody'd be dumb enough to allow banks to expand money without realising that it'd all come tumbling down some time
-> that time being when the rate of growth of the global human population ceased in its increase.

question 1b
So why'd anybody go about setting up money to take the fall - when fall there would be regardless?
solution 1b
No chance of a revolution -
nobody to revolt against -
only one(the point)self.

Less deaths that way.

solution 2
We're a product of our place in time.

Chemical reactions proceed by precisely defined kinetics dependent upon environmental conditions -
as do we (the human mind).

No matter how different we believe our lives (with mind) to differ from the average photon, proton or pea -
we're (at least in terms of being a part of the progression)
NO DIFFERENT

- luckily though -
it's not so important whether we're restricted to a progression -
- despite those initial misleading fears which do so want us to be special
... ... ... because we *are* [2 x intertwined orthogonal n=24 hierachies are special special speeeecial ... ...]

- luckily though -
it's not so important whether we're restricted to a progression -
... ... because scaling the progression is what we *actually* want.

~*~

Who wants to be the King of the Swingers, to reach the top and have to stop?
- now that'd really bother me

(unless it didn't (which it though does)).

Toot Toot!

'next stop
- Wonderland'

'Remain on board all those for Wonder{...}Wonderland'

[Lloyd Gillespie]

The Oedipus Complex of Information and Knowledge__Love and Hate__Ontology and Epistemics…

The anarchy of ‘NewAge’ nonsense is nothing more than ‘Materialist Hate’, yet they can not see through the information mushroom, blinding them to the realities of their personal hatred. Our youth, and many older others are suffering from an anarchic intellectual suicidal insanity wish__so deep__it’s more impossible to break through their leftist extremisms, than it is to break through the older generations’ rightist extremisms. The left has simply replaced the hate of the right, of the left__with a new hate of the left, of the right. All the extremes of both right and left are now no more than the fallen angels, to their own most evil natures, of nothing more than ‘The Oedipus Complex of Information’, lacking all knowledge of ordered reality. They’ve unknowingly substituted love for hate, and an egoistic ontology of ‘I, me, me, I’__‘Oneness’, for the true epistemics of self and true knowledge__This is really sad…

When many of a whole generation, and many of the older generations falling in with them, could take the nonsense portrayed in the movie, 'Zeitgeist: Addendum', and think they have discovered something valid__when it’s no more than disguised system hatred__a wishful suicidal anarchic hatred of ordered society__and think it’s the truth__they certainly do not understand much about themselves__And it goes to the very epistemic core of their love and hate circuits, and not the false love and fear circuits__as has been rumored. This entire clan of pseudo-believers of their own malicious egos can not see they are believing nothing but their own, and others, delusional egos__of pure un-ordered nonsense. They take the ‘Oneness’ which every sensible mind knows exists, yet is impossible to interpret into any sensible system of order__and blow it into what they think is a new ordered reality, when in fact it’s no more than that old bubble of un-ordered nonsense, blown into false imaginal beliefs, since the dawn of time__as ‘gods’, ‘god’, mythologies and spirits’ non-interpretables__and nothing more.

You try to speak to these poor brainwashed children of non-light, and they instantly take offense, and accuse the truth of lies__when in fact, it’s their own lies__they are lying about. They do not see__and can not see__They have a pure love of hatred and blindness, to the true light of any ordered truth, what-so-ever. They are truly in the same Predicament as was Oedipus of years gone past__They are in love with the mother/father information, when the true knowledge of this information, makes them hate the true knowledge of the social order, of this very knowledge. Yet, they can not see their hatred of social order is nothing but a true desire for their own suicides, or the outright murder of what’s left of the world’s true innocence__which they can not see as a pure historical accident of the ill timing of the varied nations’ timing of infrastructures and resources__By nature herself. They choose to hate and blame__It’s a sad and true shame…

It’s time for these non-light children to awake…!!!rrr

[Lloyd Gillespie]

question 1
- to what extent ...?...
((~that is~ who knew? )
were the seeds of our own destruction sewn with full conscious awareness of the consequences.

Of my extensive reading of history, practically no-one knew, as the total extent of knowledge is still quite immature, compared to its possible evolved maturity. Yes, tis true a few knew, but as you’ve written elsewhere; “How do you teach people, what they believe they already know?” And, therein lies the big problem…

Burning out human greed was necessary.

Must have required a group with sufficient power and understanding of human beings to know how to form a society in which human greed could be exposed (for all to see).

This must have represented the basis for the Bildeberg meetings and the removal of the gold standard in the 70's; allowing greed to run free.

The consequences of these policies apparent for all to see now -
- the economic crisis is very definitely a one-way road.

Except for the fact, it can be otherwise, if we could teach people beyond their pseudo-self-beliefs…???

&

question 2
- to what extent ...?...
is our current understanding of reality (convergence to ToE) defined by our position in a celestial cycle (precessionary cycle) ?

- a celestial cycle as essential precursor or determinant to the completion of structure of mind ?

Were we incapable of achieving ToE until now-ish ?

Imo, we’ve probably always been able to advance society toward a ToE faster, but not achieve a true ToE, because all the pieces weren’t in place__i.e., computers, TV’s and information’s vast spread, due to these devices__It takes a lot to over-come the false given natural beliefs__especially the pseudo-scientific beliefs. The cosmic events just add to the pressures pushing us to finally figure it all out__and truly order it__for the first time in world history…

~*~

solution 1
Money was engineered to fall -
- nobody'd be dumb enough to allow banks to expand money without realising that it'd all come tumbling down some time
-> that time being when the rate of growth of the global human population ceased in its increase.

You seem to give human beings more credit of real intelligence than do I. I see the problem as one of accidental evolution, with very little intelligence attached. Imo, the entire structure of money and capitalism is no more than an emergent process of historical accidents and discoveries, of what simply served a better order of the status quo of the times, but only entered into reality bit by bit, with no-one, or at the most, very few understanding the total dynamics of the system’s ordered mechanics. It’s only in the last 150 years that we’ve really truly begun to understand the world’s true dynamics at any of the many academic levels__and still, it’s only a handful that really do understand. I can’t count more than 10 to 15 economists in America that fully understand the system, then the one’s that understand its possible transitions to new systems is 3 to possibly 5, at the most__and therein lies the problem. So no, money wasn’t purposely engineered to fall__It was accidentally_blindly_engineered to fall__We, the entire world, is subject to ‘The Oedipus Complex of Knowledge’__Immaturity, emotional and intellectual…

question 1b

So why'd anybody go about setting up money to take the fall - when fall there would be regardless?

They didn’t__just plain ol’ accidental emergent structure…

solution 1b

No chance of a revolution -
nobody to revolt against -
only one(the point)self.

Less deaths that way.

True enough…

solution 2

We're a product of our place in time.

Chemical reactions proceed by precisely defined kinetics dependent upon environmental conditions -
as do we (the human mind).

No matter how different we believe our lives (with mind) to differ from the average photon, proton or pea -
we're (at least in terms of being a part of the progression)
NO DIFFERENT

- luckily though -
it's not so important whether we're restricted to a progression -
- despite those initial misleading fears which do so want us to be special
... ... ... because we *are* [2 x intertwined orthogonal n=24 hierachies are special special speeeecial ... ...]

- luckily though -
it's not so important whether we're restricted to a progression -
... ... because scaling the progression is what we *actually* want.

Yes, and scaling the progression from emergent to ordered by purposeful action, for a change. If we continue to let emergent scaling progressions run our lives__we’re all dead. We must realize the order must be set by actionable intelligence__for the first time in history. Nature has turned against us__We must realize its full implications...

~*~

Who wants to be the King of the Swingers, to reach the top and have to stop?
- now that'd really bother me

(unless it didn't (which it though does)).



'next stop
- Wonderland'

'Remain on board all those for Wonder{...}Wonderland'

Open the eyes,
It stands before,
No more sighs...
Open the magic door,
There stands emergent truth,
On its pedestal highs,
Beckoning all its youth…rrr

P.s.
"We live and exist in an emergent evolution__the system must be evolved__not destroyed__The Middle Path Emergent Evolution..."

[labelwench]

Just jumping in here, my usual style, as I swing on the vine of shifting from my night work through to day work and back, never quite sure which side of the light my thought processes are on.

The process of evolution.....

seemingly accelerated.....

by the fast pace of new technology,

and the proliferation of ever more

information to wade through.


Back to the babe new born.

A clean slate, awaiting impression.

Impressions that now come at enormous speed and volume, complete with visual imagery.

Compare this to not that many generations ago, when the options were far fewer, considerably less decisions to be made.

Some thoughts arising from this:

Physically, humans statistically appear to mature earlier, grow larger and live longer, for a myriad of observable hypothesis, all of which could fit into the term evolution, even if we have somehow assisted the process.

Do we also learn faster? Is our brain keeping pace with the other observable developments?

How can one compare the parameters of a long life time experience and personal learning, which though possibly very academic, will still be subjective, no matter how much logic one brings to bear,

and share those incredibly valuable insights gained through life, or the 'school of hard knocks',

with a generation that can quickly glean the facts from history on line,

BUT HAS NOT LIVED IT.

Perhaps that is why each generation must relive the mistakes of the past, and new ones as well,

because information and data....

is not Understanding or Knowing.

What is the most effective way to transfer the lessons of a lifetime?

If we were to lose the infrastructure overnight, what is the most important thing to save, in the interests of the survival of all humanity?

Just my delusional thought of the day.

Regards all,

Lorrina

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Hi Lorrina, and thanks for the interesting angles on what's been discussed. I'll make a few contemplations and comments...

Just jumping in here, my usual style, as I swing on the vine of shifting from my night work through to day work and back, never quite sure which side of the light my thought processes are on.

The process of evolution.....

seemingly accelerated.....

by the fast pace of new technology,

and the proliferation of ever more

information to wade through.

But if I'm not mistaken, we have far more ideas and simplification models of past knowledge systems, to help us process the accelerated pace of new technologies and ever more information, as much is grounded in these basic models. So, are we truly more swamped, or less...? I think it really applies to the amount of known educational models one truly possesses. Those with less models of past understanding would be more swamped by the increase, yet those with more knowledge of history's simplification models, may be far less so. I guess it comes down to finding sound models of processed information and or people, we may all trust__and trust is a big word, here__unless we are capable of knowing these many models ourselves...

Back to the babe new born.

A clean slate, awaiting impression.

Impressions that now come at enormous speed and volume, complete with visual imagery.

Compare this to not that many generations ago, when the options were far fewer, considerably less decisions to be made.

Some thoughts arising from this:

Physically, humans statistically appear to mature earlier, grow larger and live longer, for a myriad of observable hypothesis, all of which could fit into the term evolution, even if we have somehow assisted the process.

Do we also learn faster? Is our brain keeping pace with the other observable developments?

And again, imo, it would be according to the education and trust levels of the individuals involved in the interpretations and understandings. I know there's a giant difference between my children, in their `30's, than between my wife and I. When talking to my children, I have to think back fourty years, to place myself in their shoes to relate to them and their ideas__and then I've realized they do not possess the same grounded connections to universal values and ordered ideas, I did then.

So, there's been a giant disconnect with youth growing up today, in a much more un-grounded world, that my generation had the chance of remembering, that they do not__as both my children have informed me of their aversion to ordered information and knowledge. This isn't the healthy skepticism I was raised with__it's more a total distrust, that bears on accepting anti-information and anti-knowledge, just because of this huge universal and particular disconnect.

So, I'm still learning how to connect these ideas, first for my own children, and at the same time for myself and others, such as here at ToeQuest, and the various other venues I'm involved with. It's a massive undertaking, that's for sure. I'll make many mistakes along the way, but I see no other way of creating the needed grounding of processing the massive amount of information, the uninitiated must take in__as they do not have the natural grounding visions my generation was granted from birth to about the late `60's.

I first saw this disconnect happening at work in the `70's when drugs and long hair on men hit, and the older men wouldn't, not only teach the young, they wouldn't even give them a descent word, or time-of-day. It's a major problem, that must be overcome...

How can one compare the parameters of a long life time experience and personal learning, which though possibly very academic, will still be subjective, no matter how much logic one brings to bear,

and share those incredibly valuable insights gained through life, or the 'school of hard knocks',

with a generation that can quickly glean the facts from history on line,

BUT HAS NOT LIVED IT.

But, this is the great divide we must surmount, if we are to survive the future__because these young people, without the advantage of experience, are the ones most adept at using and manipulating this new electronic age's tools. So, this sets up a dynamic that can be very dangerous going forward, if a successful method is not discovered to bridge this very experiential gap, you speak of. It must be done somehow.

My wife and my children talk about it all the time__We are learning to close the gap, yet it's still quite large, and admitted so by all my children. My daughter says she just can't stop reading to fill the gap she feels between universal values and particular experiences and studies, especially being raised in the same house with two major researchers of ideas, and the constant dialogues of their childhoods, as my sons have both stated the same gaps and differences of all ages...

Perhaps that is why each generation must relive the mistakes of the past, and new ones as well,

because information and data....

is not Understanding or Knowing.

What is the most effective way to transfer the lessons of a lifetime?

This is what we are all working on__What is the most effective way to transfer the lessons of a lifetime? I can tell you, I'm learning something new about it every day, but that still doesn't guarantee I'll discover this all important key of transfer__I'm just hoping I do...

If we were to lose the infrastructure overnight, what is the most important thing to save, in the interests of the survival of all humanity?

Imo, it would be the major collection of models known, as this alone, would allow us the ability to build upon the known, but hopefully then accepting the many better future viable models, that already exist__and this is true to all fields of endeavor__The models we have of reality, are the most important, as they allow the most complete, yet simple understanding of our many areas of realities...

As relates to the solid heart of this question of 'What is the most important thing to save, in the interests of survival?', it would be our food and water processing and distribution infrastructure, so we don't have civil war and famine over the absolute necessities of life. We'd also need the health-care industry. When just these two absolute necessities are considered, one realizes we also need the energy to heat our northern homes and run our delivery trucks and trains, so we're getting pretty near needing the entire economic infrastructure, to make it all function__without panic and war, or at the least massive civil strife__and since everyone has to pay for these necessities, we'd need a payments system, which would require a work system, and on and on it goes. This is just a simple overview, but you get the picture...

Just watched what happened on Easter Island the other night, when the infrastructure collapsed(archeologists peiced it together...)__It was pretty gruesome, cannibalism and all. It's also what most likely happened to the Maya and the Anastasi, and many more...

Just my delusional thought of the day.

Regards all,

Lorrina

Thanks Lorrina for the very thoughtful post...rrr

[SB_UK]

Trying and failing to find a place for money.


Explanation

We can all be of the same intelligence -
- and so how can we be in a system where people have different levels of physical world (money,property) wealth?

In an ideal world
(and as 'things' generally worked out)
money
(in the transition from savage to man)
would have been in the hands of people who sought to bring people up to this same basic intelligence level
(as 'things' generally worked out since money ->buys-> education ->buys-> morality - an inevitable train of events).

After one has eaten, drunk and acquired a large collection of females to satisfy one's physical desires -
one (the rich chappy) is not satisfied and goes in search of more.

Physical materialism -> Mental materialism -> Spiritual asceticism

GIVE IT ALL AWAY!
(with a proviso - see below)
Money thereby serving a purpose - though what use anything which has served its purpose?

When people (enough people) have attained the same basic intelligence level to ensure that all people (in future) will reach (without fail) that intelligence level -
(an appropriate mechanism for delivery of education)
then money will cease to be of worth.
(that's the proviso)
We're pretty much there already -
- with the only barriers representing the country or so and religion or so which put up barriers to outside influence
- to proper education.

Impossible to stop the wireless internet though.

Pretty sure that these barriers (in repressive political and religious regimes) will be forced aside soon -
- the tanks which were halted by a brave lil' chap in Tian'anmen Square
- and despite the great financial wealth of the self-appointed leaders of the Middle Eastern countries -

in effect
- God is gonna' getcha' and won't be thinking twice about ripping governmental brains outta' their sockets -
because God is a process *without* feelings (as such).

Time for the fear of God to be harnessed as it was meant to be -
- towards stamping out anachronistic hierarchies

- and as one would expect from an autonomous process which works through cycling through inequality into equality -
- any forces which maintain inequality (past their utility) are really gonna' get it
- gonna' gettit good and proper

and both of those corrupt political regimes -
- predicated on control for either 'theirs' or 'your' protection
wouldn't you know ... ...

A repetitive motif seen in Western governments also (to be fair).

(We're terribly predictable, you know).

ToE
- a regular geometric process from which all structures unfold.

~*~

Money has no role in our future though only as soon as people (or enough people) are brought up to speed (the proviso).

Money had a purpose - won't continue to have utility.

Until enough people are brought up to speed -
(pretty much now)
- money is/was necessary as a form of crowd control.

People being protected from their (animal,savage) selves.

Any abuse exerted in the name of money - was abuse exerted by a person
(money has no mind).

It's interesting that in this presentation of the crimes committed by people using money
--- that ---
people are helped into reaching the understanding for themselves that they want freedom and not more (of anything ~for instance~ money) than other people -
- where freedom only actually arises by having the same limiting physical raw materials as other people

(no more freedom fighting if we're all effectively free)

People are given the incentive (then) -
the incentive being their own freedom
(which they now understand they're been chasing)

- are given (they themselves) an understanding of
why money ?
- to see that money
(the very thing which they've been chasing) -
as the instrument of their own slavery.

.... ... are able to see (in themselves) -
why money has (up until then) been necessary -

- are given the incentive to achieve a state of mind which allows them themselves to no longer need money -
(education - a properly built mind)
- to no longer need the instrument of repression which they themselves have helped to support in place
- to no longer need the instrument of repression which they themselves needed to support in place

Much more simply

People sat on a table which is beginning to creak.
People scared to get off the table - because it's something new.
Politicians, religious leaders, CEOs, bankers and lawyers telling people to stay in place.

Eventually people will begin to jump off
- civil disobedience

because the state of mind which characterizes the ruling Institutions which care only for their own survival (as an expression of the savage within man)
- collapse.

~*~

So ... ... ...

money was necessary.
money ceases to be necessary.
we move on.

Creativity can't be unsheathed as long as there's some form of ignorant influence acting to keep people in line.

Creativity
- is -
(after all)
- a definition of something new.

~*~

But but but ... ...
How can we dismantle all Institutions and then expect anything to be achieved ?

--- simple ---
- we dismantle all human (fundamentally flawed) Institutions and then replace them by a natural Institution which is based around the Trinity progression.

The Trinity progression is simply the definition of the most efficient architecture - may be used to apply to every structure -
- provides us with a building block upon which we have the capacity for human engineering to develop constructs for other human beings -
constructs which'll scale.

Scalable and Sustainable.
We need to live within our means and strive towards fun (running as fast as possible away from boredom)

where money is dull.

The economists who build mathematical models are doing nothing more than the kid who plays a Simulation 'football manager game' -
- except the kiddy whose sports business goes bust does not adversely impinge on (in contrast to the economist)
- does not affect any unsuspecting other.

[SB_UK]

Large amounts of money in the hands of the few.

Some of these people tend towards 'good'
definition - prime directive community

Most tend towards 'bad'
definition - prime directive selfishness

A useful definition of 'bad' (in this context) would be of:
any person who subscribes to bawdy (externally observable) shows of wealth.
People who do 'things' so that other people see them out {with them, doing them,behaving in that manner}.
People who aspire to behaviours which are of value to the person because of the nature of ownership of those things or behaviours on driving envy in others.

However ... ... ...
what'd happen if all money was (at this current point in time) handed out equally to all people?

The clue (of the terror which would then reign) is to be found in the footballer (American or English) and the footballer's wife.
The very stereotype of the 'nouvau riche' -
in Britain we're overrun by overpaid sportsmen and their actress or singer wives -
the virulent pairing which arises is described in Hinduism as

{Vishnu - Lakshmi} - Stage II

This is what occurs when money is placed into uneducated minds; we'd return to the days of local aggressive baboons ruling the less physically strong.

These are the rules on the sports field -
ultimately it's some aspect of physical strength which defines success.

Educate (Vishnu and Lakshmi) into amateur sport for children and the nature of the current movements in electronic music and manga
- and we arrive at the spiritual asceticism of Shiva and Parvati -
- an end to the idiocy of the professional sportsman, the human singer or actress.

- asceticism where ownership of material and knowlege is absolutely spurned -

- is spurned (if one would prefer) for selfish reasons

- since one gains the frame of mind (described in the previous post)

- a frame of mind which clearly indicates the nature of selfish attachment to any thing as representing an anchor into an anachronistic animal reality (the physical world) which prevents the mind (spirit) from status freedom.

And back around to the equivalence between the resurrection of Christ and Buddha's enlightenment.

It's all the same.

/.|.\

- the architecture of reality

~*~

Sorry
- I really can't see the need for money in the very near future.

[SB_UK]

... ... overpaid sportsmen and their actress or singer wives -
the virulent pairing which arises is described in Hinduism as

{Vishnu - Lakshmi} - Stage II

This is what occurs when money is placed into uneducated minds; we'd return to the days of local aggressive baboons ruling the less physically strong.
These are the rules on the sports field.

However

mix it up until there are no pedigrees

+

wikipedia/Regression to the mean

+

The generally accepted increase in physical attractiveness and robustness in children of mixed race

+

The faces we see in Japanese animation (homogenization)

~*~

We're observing an increase in (particularly so as of recently) inter-racial marriages resulting in a regression to the mean in physical characteristics in our species.

This represents the globally most stable state -
- regression to the mean resulting in maximal underlying variability.

The Professional anything who requires some physical attribute to ply their trade is being wiped offa' the surface of the planet -
- an inevitable consequence of crossing out or generating hybrids from previously racial extremes.

I'm trying to suggest that any physical characteristic which has predominated within a race within the species is being lost to the evolutionary transition of

-> start -> [ novel evolutionary property -> extremes (inequality) -> to equality ] -> return to start ->

We're losing (yay!) any definition of race, and hence any definition of race by physical property (colour,strength,speed) and with *this* equality in our physical structure -
- we're observing (concomitantly) - a flattening (equality) in physical wealth -
occurring.

Excessive financial strength (money,land)
Excessive physical wealth (sportsman,actor,singer)
are reflections of the same underlying flaw.

The flaw became a flaw when the underlying tendency ceased to operate.

Evolution -> Inequality -> Equality -> Evolution

Since we began the transition to equality - people with excess financial or physical strength hold the rest of the species up
- as they take steps to prevent change.

As they (though to be fair) were meant to -

ADDF::Stabile - Social impulse

- it's easier to imagine this transition as a chemical reaction where the activation energy (Ea - a mountain to climb) -
- is placed as a barrier to change -
to ensure that when change comes - it'll be for the better.



The social impulse (Ea) maintains structural integrity until that former structure is much more than breached
- we need to be that sure.

The previous structure would have needed to consist of the physical and mental materialists preventing change.
The physical and mental materialists are characterized by their bank balances.

One's bank balance is there to service only one's own needs - the fear of having insufficient money to survive on the flipside becoming a fight for survival -
in which any behaviour appeared permissible -

and all of this laid at the feet of that thing called money.

To be fair though - a world without money would have found itself another physical token of inequality.
Land ownership (and all those who live on the land) for instance.

All of which though may be skimmed over until we understand the proviso (from above); doomed to make the same mistakes over and over again until we ourselves gain insight into the problem -
and thereby
get better.

~*~

The evolutionary pattern is towards commingling
- an elimination of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_stratification
==

mix it up until there are no pedigrees

post-extremity

or

[ /dual/ finds /dual/ -> /duality/ + child -> /Trinity/ ]
-> /dual/ (child) seeks ... ...

The dual represents the extremity (inequality).
The duals form duality upon balance - equality.

The evolutionary process works through generating something new with a fundamental inequality which balances (equality) to give a duality which seeds a dual seeks a fellow inequality to generate ... ... ...

(well you know ... ... ... )

Round and around she goes.

[SB_UK]

Our problem then -

if the average person grows to despise money -

then money can no longer operate as the carrot (which most unquestioned it to be) ?

Money can only motivate through fear
- as a stick

- much like the rule of law is currently.

Any aspect of social behaviour which is made mandatory and which forces people to counter their own spirit cannot succeed.

The unidirectional nature of evolution requires a uni-direction which cannot be overcome.

In our case it's towards either spirituality or complexity of geometry dependent upon one's 'New Agedness'.

Not a statement of anything other than the fairly reasonable idea that people can't be forced to behave incorrectly once people understand that they're being made to behave poorly
- through subscription to a (up until then misunderstood) system which generates ever increasing inequality in an environment where all individuals seek freedom -
- and where very importantly freedom is a group (species) attribute.

Simply
1. Man understands that he wants to be free
2. Man understands that the need to earn money*** imprisons him.
3. Man works out a mechanism in which he (and all others) can be free -
since freedom is a group attribute.

*** Better the current unequal financial system where survival is not possible without money.

Can money continue to exist?

Only in the transition to a one~wage or no~wage system.

We can't simply elect to take the enlightened stance and play no further role in support of a poor system -
- to not turn up to work tomorrow -

- the hardest part of the transition which I'm describing will be in unravelling the mess we appear to have gotten ourselves into -
- this mess will not unravel itself without some fairly intense effort.

It's much easier to build poor systems (the rise of Windows versus Unix) than it is to replace poor systems with more efficiently architected alternatives.

The problem is that poorer systems are built on an unintuitive platform
(where /|\ builds intuitive)
- there are some systems which'll never unravel unless the people with specialised unintuitive esoteric knowledge in these domains help.

Why were poorly architected systems introduced?
Market advantage -
Money -
The need for 'security'
- The patent
- Personal gain

... ... ... it's always the same story ... ... ...

Our most pressing problem (then) shall arise through the dawning awareness (by people) of the collusion which these people have mandated on damage to our collective environment -
- and in reaction to their own aversion to themselves and these behaviours not being able to help correct the problems which they have up until then seeded and previously gained from

- people no longer wanting to play a part in damaging the world for future generations refusing to help in cleaning up the mess which they have created -
through intimidation in the face of the shear enormity of the task.

Not wanting to have anything more to do with the nonsense which they have (throughout their working lives) generated
- through reaching an understanding (systems mind) of the terror which they have served to unleash through unquestioning, docile existence.

[SB_UK]

Since
/ | \
builds the most efficient structure imaginable -

we can dispense with competition -

and can generate the 'best' item imaginable

- no longer requiring innovation by competition to generate ever better structures.

In effect we can hybridize the supposed philosophies of the left (for people) and the right (efficiency) and replace these twin concerns with

(simply)

the logical model.

~aka~

pure (untainted by original sin) science

Pure untainted science representing the

nature of nature of

reality -
the progression from which we ourselves
- our physical and mental structures are born from within.