East Meets West Logic...

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Many a time have I thought the same thing...rrr

"--- The neural generation. Could a whole world be wrong? As we economically drift toward WWIII.... How do we talk? The male and female spirit battle is blocking the advance of truth and technical logic. Look outside yourself. There's a whole new world. The problem - "We only understand our own thinking and no one else's and can't or won't learn." Everyone is too insecure to see the truth. The world is too insecure to see through itself to the truth. People - Defending their own thinking - Life - Why talk? - All we're going to do is defend our own thinking! Has this created the poisoned American spirit? Drop subconscious's and go conscious."

Wouldn't it be something if good thoughts could infect and then change society (for the better) - could infect and change society
and all at the speed of thought ?

Rather than through communicating (spoken,written) an idea, instead by the thoughts leading to resolution of some shared structure - restricting the options so that the mistakes of their predecessors, future generations actually not able.

We haven't actually been capable of learning from our mistakes, have we? Needed to keep on making them, until ... ...

Wouldn't it be something if good thoughts could infect and then change society (for the better) - could infect and change society and all at the speed of thought ?

'Woof...!'

[SB_UK]

#138-139

Thanks (still thinking)






[ps]

Two axes of polarity
--|
--y
--|
--x-- less obvious than y
--|
--|



...o
....
o: :.O
...
.o

...o
.o/o
.o
as in d- orbitals ........|
as in d- orbitals ........v

.....s............p...........d

..................f

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Oh, I'm in agreement Below...rrr

Thanks (still thinking)

[ps]

Two axes of polarity
--|
--y
--|
--x-- less obvious than y
--|
--|



...o
....
o: :.O
...
.o

...o
.o/o
.o
as in d- orbitals ........|
as in d- orbitals ........v

.....s............p...........d

..................f

How about 3 axis...? Just kidding...rrr
Below...


This any help...?

[SB_UK]

... a general quantum uncertainty physical FS-wave model

sounds good though what does FS mean?

google suggests 'freestyle' which fits with the idea of complexity being driven by synchronization in the Planck length standing wave matrix.

[SB_UK]

"--- The neural generation. Could a whole world be wrong? As we economically drift toward WWIII.... How do we talk? The male and female spirit battle is blocking the advance of truth and technical logic. Look outside yourself. There's a whole new world. The problem - "We only understand our own thinking and no one else's and can't or won't learn." Everyone is too insecure to see the truth. The world is too insecure to see through itself to the truth. People - Defending their own thinking - Life - Why talk? - All we're going to do is defend our own thinking! Has this created the poisoned American spirit? Drop subconscious's and go conscious."

I absolutely agree.

These thoughts lead to the loss of that ego -
- the one with the leather bound Curriculum Vitae

- these thoughts result in the incapacity to write a CV,
to forget one's name -
- to strive towards excision of any superficial distinguishing feature particularly pertaining to owner$hip

- true diversity doesn't come from petitioning Ford to increase the number of colours which they offer their cars in.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

sounds good though what does FS mean?

google suggests 'freestyle' which fits with the idea of complexity being driven by synchronization in the Planck length standing wave matrix.

Fundamental Substance, of which the Universe is/was made of/from, in its true pre-big bang state/small bangs state, whi(t)chever__what would be left if finity(entire finite universe) theoretically totally Hawking decayed to its absolute ground state_10^137 yrs. out . Remember the three constituents of the Sphinx story? Two matter substances and one of motion. Well, it could be decaying to the i God particles, to the absolute infinite infinitesimals, of finity in eternal infinity_natural 0k hydro-dynamically bounded, and a possible recycling... Just theory, but it offers a fundamental base to have a Real Universe...

There's much information on this in Greg's, Tim's, my and DavidW's, your old nemesis, older and newer threads. I got a kick 'outta' reading you two's back and forth's, when you first joined...rrr

[SB_UK]

post #143

from the image

'Keyne's/Godel's ... logic ... semantic ...knowledge web'



... ... ... sounds a lot like sensible ideas expressed clearly.

[SB_UK]

from the image in #143

Legal repression -> {Liberty,Rationality}
~paraphrase~

perfect

The time is now (as your figure shows); how can one be so sure?

So sure because if I saw a 2 hour movie summary of the life people are forced to lead in 2009 -
I really would not believe it.

Not credible -
- and yet it's the truth -
- mental meltdowns accompanied by blue smoke shooting outta' our ears.

People killing themselves by over-indulgence whilst others die from not having enough -
- where the guys who're dying appear to be being eaten by the guys who could stand to miss a meal or two.
And that's just for starters.

Sport and Weather forecasts taking up the main course and dessert
- providing that non-contentious just eaten and 'ready for bed' feeling.

Wouldn't want the audience to have nightmares; think of your falling viewing figures;
ABC's just hired a pretty presenter -

I'm gonna' need a little extra from you people
- life is hard.

[labelwench]

"--- The neural generation. Could a whole world be wrong? As we economically drift toward WWIII.... How do we talk? The male and female spirit battle is blocking the advance of truth and technical logic. Look outside yourself. There's a whole new world. The problem - "We only understand our own thinking and no one else's and can't or won't learn." Everyone is too insecure to see the truth. The world is too insecure to see through itself to the truth. People - Defending their own thinking - Life - Why talk? - All we're going to do is defend our own thinking! Has this created the poisoned American spirit? Drop subconscious's and go conscious."

Originally posted by Lloyd Gillespie

The difficulty, I have often found, is not that we are thinking differently, but that we are communicating it differently.

The 'thought' or electro-magnetic energy, is being transferred via bio-mechanical means of voice, which is also reinforced or negated by tonal inflection and body language.

Language, is a concept tool in itself, and as with all tools, there is the originally designed purpose, and then the utility which may choose to employ. One can be far more cruel using proper language than vulgar epithet, merely the former insult is easier to discern, as an example.

We also choose different areas of interest to which we apply our thinking, and that, too, may give the impression of discord, where none is intended, as all may converge upon a point from any perceived direction.

(Hmmmm....360 degrees in a circle. How many in a sphere? I don't believe I studied that in math.... )

Now, if we could all somehow interface at the level of our brainwaves, there might be considerably more in common than appears from the outside looking in.

Interesting following your discussion and thoughts all.....

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Hi Lorrina, and thanks for the interest. Here's a bit more to match your's, SB's and all's ideas and concerns...rrr

"---There's a wolf in the system... He was born of your laws. He roams from Maine to California - Alaska to Florida - Hawaii to D.C., and Chicago to New York... He is a hungry wolf. He tears into your hind quarters, clear to the bone, with a vicious set of teeth. He is simply after your wallet. He is the [international] speculation wolf, and he operates legally under your floating exchange law system, to rip the very soul from your nation. He will succeed unless you try to understand how he feeds............"

The difficulty, I have often found, is not that we are thinking differently, but that we are communicating it differently.

The 'thought' or electro-magnetic energy, is being transferred via bio-mechanical means of voice, which is also reinforced or negated by tonal inflection and body language.

Language, is a concept tool in itself, and as with all tools, there is the originally designed purpose, and then the utility which may choose to employ. One can be far more cruel using proper language than vulgar epithet, merely the former insult is easier to discern, as an example.

We also choose different areas of interest to which we apply our thinking, and that, too, may give the impression of discord, where none is intended, as all may converge upon a point from any perceived direction.

(Hmmmm....360 degrees in a circle. How many in a sphere? I don't believe I studied that in math.... )[If your angles are nearest, smallest infinitesimals possible, and measured from all angles and positions, it would be near infinite, especially if it were just our galaxie, instead of the Earth__Non-Euclidian geometry_W.Clifford...]

Now, if we could all somehow interface at the level of our brainwaves, there might be considerably more in common than appears from the outside looking in.

Interesting following your discussion and thoughts all.....