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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    A.Garrett Lisi E8 Geometry of The Universe_One Version_Triadic Core...rrr

    Just let your eyes relax, and look at this. See the circles, within circles...?
    Light Stopper... Video... Video...
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    "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
    "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
    "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
    "The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.

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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    Drafted from ProfPat's post to Antonio. This fits the center of the first post on my philosophy thread diagram: Link... I hadn't thought of the Chinese trigrams, thanks Prof...rrr

    This is true in my Venn Diagram model why are those numbers opposite? I know they are opposite sides of dice.




    You can see the opposites very easily using the I Ching trigrams, but I didn't know the arabic numbers were also opposite.
    Thanks ProfPat
    "To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
    "Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
    "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
    "The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.

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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    A.Garrett Lisi E8 Geometry of The Universe_One Version_Triadic Core...rrr

    Just let your eyes relax, and look at this. See the circles, within circles...?



    Light Stopper... Video... Video...
    A.Garrett Lisi...

    Doctors,

    I stopped light in my house tonight, but rather than with lasers and cold clouds, I used a light switch.
    And the day that scientific theories are complete they'll be simply called truth.
    And futhermore, the diagram above looks like an advance version of a parcheesi board to me.
    Incomplete, you guys aint even luke warm.

    Which leads me into Van Halen: Come on baby finish what you started, I'm incomplete. That aint the way to treat the broken hearted, come on and, Finish Me!!!!!
    Baby come on,

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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    Drafted from ProfPat's post to Antonio. This fits the center of the first post on my philosophy thread diagram: Link... I hadn't thought of the Chinese trigrams, thanks Prof...rrr



    Thanks ProfPat
    Quote Originally Posted by _ View Post
    ... ... after being shown that the Morin surface (that 4 pronged thingy) (courtesy of Melanie and LLoyd in 'East meets West') is actually the same as Yin Yang -
    - remarkable stuff -
    - an iconic image from the East meets itself in Western regalia.
    so simple
    The Emperor is naked
    - ain't reality sumptin' ... ... ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikal View Post
    Could be the deeper meaning of “made in my image” pertaining to the upper 4 energy-centers of Compassion, Expression, Insight and Sentient Intelligence (the spiritual.)

    Iconoclast consciousness>root origin Greek>meaning Image + to break=consciousness with the capacity to break the image of conditioned consciousness=reach the Individual Image.

    Cool….the ancients carved out the meaning of the first steps….
    Affecting lung capacity to breathe>breathe control= man as consciousness creating the 4 part Torus= (Sagittarius) higher thought and reflection, (Pisces) immersion into Bodily Intelligence, (Aquarius) immersion into deep thought, (Mars) breakdown to shape the reconstruction of the Self=The Serpent shedding its skin….

    Regards Mikal

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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdHOm256N4

    'such a terrible waste of army dreamers'

    ~*~

    ... a desire to simplify the poorly architected nonsense away from to reveal
    proper
    ~human)/(ity~
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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    .........._
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    ...o.()+
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    '4 it takes 2 to become (to be 3(and truly)) 1'
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    Re: East Meets West Logic...


    '
    4 it takes 2 to become (to be 3(and truly)) 1'
    __|.

    3 'manufactured' planes (with 3 polarities)
    folded from just 1 plane
    to
    give
    our notionally 3d-structured Universe of activity.

    The two from previously:



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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    Clue #1__Look for the anomalies between innate science, and instrumental science_they are exposed within this post, between SB's graphics and my words. Especially notice, I premised the post with
    WiFi_EM Waves...rrr

    Innate Science / | \ Instrumental Science

    Clue #2__Eclecticism can only be viewed and or criticized with 'Analytic Eclecticism', i.e., The Universal One must see the All__The One must use a Universal Probabilities of Aggregates, to Understand the Whole, Whole, Whole...rrr


    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    The Universal Geometric Preservation Path of Total Information_(1)(2)(3)
    An Innate Geometric Logic of Scientific Genericity…
    The innate orthogonal morphology of photon to photon transductions of information’s energetic carriers and processing of…
    WiFi
    -|-|-|-|-|--|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|--|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-

    (A Starter Kit…)
    / | \ = (Logic symbol for, not same, yet related)
    \ | / = (Logic symbol for, not same, yet necessarily dependent…?)(tentative definition)

    Photon / | \ Photon \ | / Photon
    Photon \ | / Path \ | / Life \ | / Love \ | / Compassion \ | / Family \ | / Empathy \ | / Community \ | / Logic \ | / Reason \ | / Geometry \ | / Information \ | / Path Preservation \ | / Geometric Morphological Transitions \ | / Emergence
    The Innate Logic of Common Sense
    The Innate Logic of Natural Geometry
    Complexity Math = Particular Process
    Probability Math = Universal Process
    Only The Universal Probabilities of Aggregates Can Process The Math Complexities
    Innate Geometric Logic = Universal Truth
    IGL = UUT \ | / GG + IO + TMA(greatest good + ideal order)
    (ultimate universal truth)(the most admirable)
    Feelings \ | / Reason \ | / Aesthetics \ | / Esthetics \ | / Logic \ | / The Most Admirable \ | / GG \ | / IO \ | / Universal Truths
    There Exists No Provable Truths, Higher Than The Mathematical Truths, of Truths' Containers
    Photons / | \ & \ | / Photons = Diversity In Uniformity (Photons each only store information to value of wavelength capacities_I don't see this process as infinite_considerable conjecture here, due to science's inability to measure the facts in full...)

    This has come as quite a happy surprise to me, as I hadn’t expected my first drawing to take on such clarity, as early as this, but the above first three orthogonal graphics, given me by SB_UK, clearly represent an undeniable vision of a continuous information flow process and path possibility at the very core of the quantum well, exposing a possible solution to the uncertainty principle. The entire magnitude of the vastness of a scientific and logical information expansion, provided by this micro spectacle is almost beyond words, but I’ll try my best to relay all its implications, as best I am able. It really scientifically extends all the way to Indra’s Net, in so many words, that I’ll actually show these scientific implications of, in as short a synopses, as I’m capable.

    Photons are the carriers and possibly stores of information to the trillions of trillions of micro bits, as we logically can know they carry the images of all we see to our eyes and perception/knowledge systems_This is just obvious fact. Photons may be the energy info stores of all universal knowledge, and possibly the innate stores of internal feelings and knowledge systems, unless they transfer this internal info to other atomic particles, and my guess would possibly be the proton, as these are the most stationary and long lived, or the proton’s internal contents__This deep area is pure speculation, but the path from the universe to permanent storage is one of sound logic, as we can witness how concepts, memory and perception logically super-position the photonic delivered info into epiphanies, the largest of our internal knowledge systems' knowledge capacity of the overall system’s logically necessary mechanics.

    Think about this: Photons in distant galaxies, passing over and through other solar/planetary systems photograph info all the way to earth, just as an electron-microscope works, except without the penetrating power of electrons_just as photons deliver the frog or tree to our eyes, here on Earth. There would still be a vast amount of info picked up, even from extremely distant sources, by the many different wavelengths involved, and gamma rays would actually pass clear through all other solid systems, on their path to earth, possibly influencing other wave/particle informations’ contents(some speculation here, but this is just an initial theory). This would contribute to the eternal geometric path of photons.

    The photons info preservation paths are represented by the first three graphics above. If you’ll notice the seemed strings attached from outside to inside, and vice versa, this motion could account for the initial pair twisting we witness in all RNA/DNA structures from initial protean structures up to human life. ‘Iff’ these simple orthogonal images, truly represent, as even the high speed accelerators seem to show, in reverse order, then the morphological transformations of photon to photon path morphing/transducing is revealed. This would also be the prime candidate for the ‘Uncertainty Principle’s’ exposure to daylight. I am conjecturing this be true. And, though it may be the truest model, the complexity of maths involved, I feel is beyond the pale of possibilities. We have to check with Antonio and Steve. Realize I’m only using the first three images as the photons to photons model of geometric path possibilities of information preservation, and fine sequencing into the true and known images we as humans clearly and logically do see and feel can possibly be true.

    The implications this information has for a proof of free-will from information choices, which could be stored deep in our collective memories is profound. What it amounts to is, so much information, we would be absolutely required to have free-will to distinguish anything at all and operate successfully as happy living human beings_I'd simply conjecture our close in visual field takes prescidence over the far fields' informations, as most of us do truly see this world, directly in front of our eyes, but not all, if ya know what I mean…

    There’s a lot missing here, but this is too huge to do all at once…rrr

    (help me work the bugs out.)
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    "The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    Quote Originally Posted by SB_UK View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdHOm256N4

    'such a terrible waste of army dreamers'

    ~*~

    ... a desire to simplify the poorly architected nonsense away from to reveal
    proper
    ~human)/(ity~
    Thanks for the Kate Bush, I haven't heard her in a while.
    And coincidently I had a conversation with a high school girl all dressed up in ROTC clothing with medals who was an Army Dreamer just yesterday. She said she was going to enlist after she graduated to help defend our country. I told her she might want to wait until the country is invaded, otherwise they might send her to invade another. She didn't like that very much so I referred her to President Eisenhower’s' speech on the subject of militarism, and after telling her that he was a General she said she would.
    All we can do is try!
    Peace,
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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

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    .....a wavelength
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    towards us on the spot

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    |...._.______
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    the less precise the momentum - the more precise the position

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    the more precise the momentum - the less precise the position

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
    In quantum mechanics, a particle is described by a wave.
    So in quantum mechanics, there are no states that describe a particle with both a definite position and a definite momentum. The more precise the position, the less precise the momentum.
    This means that the uncertainty principle is related to the observer effect, with which it is often conflated.
    sorted!

    Our background substrate (Planck length standing wave 2d manifolded matrix photonic ding-a-ling thing) is arranged with two components to the wave -
    one half of the duality a motion and the other half a position.

    The two are indivisble and evolve through their point of inflexion.

    For some bizarre reason all of this seems really rather obvious and yet ... ...

    ... ... and yet

    and yet ... ... ... ... ...

    I have absolutely no idea what I'm going on about.

    You know that feeling when you come to after a hard night's drinking only to find yourself dangling from a rope in a wicker basket offa' the end of a pier

    naked ... .. ...

    ~*~

    Hey ho
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