East Meets West Logic...

[labelwench]

Esthetics__What we most need to Know, to run the world__safely into the future__Esthetics either applies, or should apply, to all fields of study... It's values added to science...

No machine has been invented__yet__to read our thoughts__except lil' ol' us...

Intelligence gathering must be able to__as near as possible__read the motives and pre-handed goals of the radicals, who wish to destroy us__That's the area of advanced studies of super-interdisciplinarity__The eclectic domain of intelligence creativity, gathering and actions__of such actionable intelligence...
Originally posted by Lloyd Gillespie

There are people born into this world whose thought processes do not seem to be directed to the greater good, while others may become desensitized by traumatic experience, becoming unable to integrate and function in mainstream society.

Then there are many who are born into affluence and seemingly the most fortunate of circumstances, yet many of these also, may fail to integrate well and often destroy themselves and others in the process.

Every day, we hear of horrific acts (I hesitate to use the word 'crime' in these situations, without an understanding of the motivation behind the acts) committed by seemingly ordinary people upon others of their own kind, not infrequently members of family or community.

Understanding why these people act, or have potential to act in such manner will lead us down another very slippery slope, IMO.

It is one thing to punish an individual for acts committed, whether we chose incarceration or capital punishment.

In the interests of the greater good, would we become a society that would preemptively take such action against an individual because new science of the mind demonstrates they have potential to commit violence?

I hold the thought that any one of us has the potential to commit the unmentionable or unthinkable, if pushed beyond our limits of comprehension and endurance, though we might think otherwise.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Wisdom accepts the knowledge of what truly is the state of the human condition.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

"Wisdom is an ocean of visions, poured into a dewdrop, of a single ultimate vision...."

[r.p.bibra]

Living up to ones' ideals is wisdom, i.e. being true to ones own-self.

[leskey]

"Wisdom is an ocean of visions, poured into a dewdrop, of a single ultimate vision...."

Your own definition, Lloyd?

Wisdom, is in essence the contemplative state that results in procreation.

Procreation is much more than siring and birthing. It is the act of bringing forth fruit in all actions.

Being fruitful does not refer to complicity in poisoning someone else's environment in order to make money to feed your own children. Once the damage is done, Karma will take care of the eventualities...

KARMA:

"the force generated by a person's actions held in Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate transmigration and in its ethical consequences to determine the nature of the person's next existence"...or, the nature of existence of the person's subsequent offspring...?

Action that arises from purely self-serving, short-sighted motives always unleashes destructive forces.

[SteveA]

Intelligence can provide an efficiency to couple information between things. An intelligent action is efficient. An intelligence design integrates all components etc., but it has no purpose in itself - there is nothing inherently that intelligence does except exist as a tool. Just like 1+1 could be rewritten as 2, but there's no reason to select either representation. Intelligence simply allows alterations between compatible representations to be performed.

Emotions appear to be the fundamental energy/force in life. They provide directions, but don't actually "go anywhere", accomplish or achieve anything without a manner to do so.

I see wisdom as the ability to apply intelligence to emotions and actually have those emotions become effective in making change.

Emotions: Uranium 238 (Careful not to pack them too tightly!)
Intelligence: A dead power transmission line
Wisdom: A city with the lights on.

I we go further than this, we can see that intelligence is not specifically good or bad, though it's enabling of potentially either (at least in the short run and depending upon definitions).

In the long run though, it appears there is a direction that intelligence basically has to head, because there really aren't other directions to go except forward.

Emotions on the other hand, can see things as good or bad. It appears that in the long run, with nature running the show there's only one direction that will ultimately pan out as being something that can continually be accomplished and that's basically just growth in many forms. Of course, emotions, like opinions, can vary but my guess is that emotions and opinions don't escape natural selection either.

[austintorn@aol.com]

September 11, 2001



"Paradise" by Bruce Springsteen

[Lloyd Gillespie]

The Tri-Polar Intelligence of Pure Thought…

"Wisdom is an ocean of visions, poured into a dewdrop, of a single ultimate vision...."

Ever look deep into the pure mind__I mean really deep, to where you can answer the questions about how thought thinks about pure thought…? Follow me to a zone you may never have been before__it won’t hurt, but it may surprise. Most think they know their own minds quite well, but do they really?__I think you’ll see for yourself, there’s much more to pure thought than you’ve so far realized…

Simply take the word intelligence, and ask yourself, ‘What is the intelligence of intelligence…?’ This is that ancient question Socrates first posed millennia ago, with a bit of a twist, as he asked, ‘What is the wisdom of wisdom?’ and ‘What is the science of science?’__but, these same thought-word relations lead us to the same destination. It’s also been asked by others as, ‘What’s the cognition of the cognition?’ and ‘What’s the concept of the concept?’ and ‘What’s the context of the context?’ and you could also ask; ‘What’s the feeling of the feeling…?’ These questions may seem strange to you at first, but when it’s explained__you’ll easily see the importance of such deep investigations of the mind’s purest deep states of thinking. Most likely, you all do think like this now__it’s just you’ve never given it the detail of contemplation to realize it…

Think about it__when one asks themselves’ any one of these single entity questions, one’s thoughts are centered strictly on the thought of thinking about thought itself. This is the mode of modal thought, modal logic, modal intelligence or modal wisdom, per se__and no different than thinking about the moods of the mind’s thinking about pure thinking… It’s really the easiest idea in the world to accomplish, it’s just most never think about the mood of their being, upon how such controls their thoughts and actions__but, the realization can be the most profound change in a person’s contemplations about themselves, the world and their actions toward self, others and the world…

If one starts out thinking in the mood of self-referential thinking, or experiential intelligence__one’s mood or modal thought is more childhood-soul to super-consciousness feelings' based__a most personal thought stance… If one starts out thinking in the mood of non-self-referential thinking, or operational intelligence of others’ and the world’s ideas__one’s mood or modal thought is more of the intellect to the entire systems’ architectures of all the world’s many systems__a most non-personal stance, yet closely related to the over-soul of global sight… There’s still one more mood or modal thought to contemplate__and that’s one’s modal actionable intelligence, or one’s will to act upon one’s experiential wisdom state, in an attempt to move pieces of such wisdom to one’s operational knowledge state__as it’s really how we all do achieve our best moments in life, that truly satisfy us… For when we accomplish, through our self-knowing actionable intelligence of personal will, to discover totally new ideas and links from our experiential intelligence, to our operational knowledge and action states of mind__we feel we can really set the world afire…

So, next time you’re thinking about thinking about something__first check the mood of the state of mind, you are truly thinking from__and I promise you, that by knowing the mood of your thinking state, is by far the most important progress one can ever accomplish in the evolution of the mind states advancement… It will also give you the chance to really coordinate any presentation state you may choose, from your most personal feelings, thoughts and actions, to the most complex of intellectual contemplations and actions. Along the way of thinking about thinking, you may realize how much the world has lost this art of pure contemplative thought__and how much we all really need to re-instate it__to communicate effectively__as it relaxes the mind more than anything else, to know one has the ability to choose the mood of the conversations and actions one is involved in__purely at the will of knowing one can…

All it requires is to state to another the mode of the thought talked about, whether experiential intelligence, operational intelligence or actionable intelligence__This can also be phrased as experiential wisdom, operational knowledge and knowing intelligent actions__and just simply notify another of the mood change… Many do this without knowing they do it, but to be able to do it knowingly is of great comfort to one’s being, and self-satisfaction…

Therefore; ‘Wisdom is the actionable intelligence capacity, to knowingly move percepts and concepts of experiential wisdom, into the greater world of operational knowledge__to help improve the function and form of our world at large…’

Btw, when anyone actually does see wisdom, even small pieces of it, it’s the most humbling experience in the world, as it’s so huge compared to any one of us__it’s truly overwhelming…

[austintorn@aol.com]

Wisdom (wise-dom) is the superior judgment, understanding, and application that is based on both knowledge and experience, far surpassing erudition; a quality of being wise. The antonym is “folly”.

It goes so deep that one may even easily ignore one’s own (conditioned) thoughts which arise that are unknowable beliefs falsely identified as truth and fact (a second level view: beliefs about beliefs, sort of). One who has it may be be called a Wiz (no relation to the magic of a wizard). Learning feeds it.

Some run into the walls of life, time and time again, ever bashed and injured, but never ever learning. “Wishes” seen but only through one’s own eyes says that they ought not to, that they shouldn’t; but, Wisdom notes that they still do, the reality—that they can’t, they don’t, and they won’t. Such is the human condition for some that may be immune to learning, the curse that prevents the will from becoming wider and having more choices. Yet, the ultimate vision remains available for the rest and one day the “some” may be swept up into its sum.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Economics__The Blind Leading The Blind...!!!