East Meets West Logic...

[Mikal]

Absolute understanding, Mikal, that Life is not Fair.

Sometimes it is not even kind.

Bad things happen to good people, and one's life can go from nigh perfection to tragedy in the wink of an eye.No one is exempt.

There is a dynamic tension involved in happiness.

You wish that everyone could be equally fortunate, in whatever would most please them, and you are also very cognizant that the fates, the capricious gods, dame fortune, or who have you, may pull the rug out from under you next.

Neural stimulation, as SB__UK refers to it, comes in many forms, both positive and negative.

Through experience, personally, I prefer the positive forms.

Your comment, though, perfectly illustrates my remark, that sometimes one feels guilt at being in a state of happiness, when they witness the misfortunes of others around them.

So, what then?

We all become Vulcans and deny any sensation of emotion?

Conflicting emotions. Paradox in fluctuating state...

Why should you have to feel guilty? Happiness like compassion is not something that ever needs to be spoken in words...it reflects, it shines..it circulates from personality, nature and temperment.....it surrounds people and they feel the warmth, nature assured that what is our state can be owned this way and of course the secret is to let if flow...share it...


Regards Mikal

[labelwench]

Why should you have to feel guilty? Happiness like compassion is not something that ever needs to be spoken in words...it reflects, it shines..it circulates from personality, nature and temperment.....it surrounds people and they feel the warmth, nature assured that what is our state can be owned this way and of course the secret is to let if flow...share it...


Regards Mikal
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Thank you for your words, Mikal, and indeed, I strive very hard to share positive energy, by thought, word and deed, as it is what the world truly needs.

This song says it better than any words I can write...

Tears are not enough

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJN3u1wAWIk

"Tears Are Not Enough" was a 1985 charity single recorded by a supergroup of Canadian artists, under the name Northern Lights, to raise funds for famine relief in Ethiopia. The project was organized by Bruce Allen, who brought together a large group of artists to record a song written by Bryan Adams, Jim Vallance and David Foster. The song was recorded on February 10, 1985 at Manta Sound studios in Toronto, Ontario.
Featuring Bryan Adams, Corey Hart, Ann Murray, Geddy Lee (Rush), Bruce Cockburn, Platinum Blond, Paul Shaeffer, Guess Who, Ronny Hawkins, Gordon Lightfoot, Neil Young etc. Inspired by "Do they know it's Christmas?" and "We are the world" famine relief fund raisers.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

A Gov. God-Head of True Power_Intelligence Can’t Be Linked to Power Til Power Is Defined…
The Rightful Symmetrical God-Head Power of Government…
The Symmetric Incentive Power of Proper Government…
‘Intelligence added to greed(larger perspective and longer term view) turns to wisdom…’ S.A.
Intelligently defined power over the greed machine…
The Laws of Greed:
#1.Principal demanded beyond principal issued, creates greed…
#2.A % of principal, gov. issued beyond principal plus interest, ends greed…
#3. Islamicphilosophy’s zero interest rate banking through triple entry banking__Keynes’ bancor__One international currency à One wage distant future à The wisdom logic of greed’s full knowledge circle, and application of law’s computer controlled programs, over the greed machine…

The Paradigm Shift__From complexity to common sense__From empire to 1st community...
Ya 'gotta' have a simple scientific method, to teach a system...

In good ol’ `72, I had a major epiphany, as I’ve mentioned before, but it passed so quickly, I didn’t recover it again until `82. When it did finally return, it was embellished with that further 10 years of life’s rich experiences, as I’d been studying everything under the sun, to try and recover that massive vision I’d earlier experienced. It was late in the afternoon, on a sunny Fall day, when I walked into my shop and accidentally knocked over a stack of books. One of my encyclopedia science year books fell open to Einstein. I thought it strange that Einstein was staring up at me, with his scraggily hair, so I picked the book up and saw the caption under his picture; “The secret of the Old One.” My mind immediately filled with that epiphany I’d experienced most exactly 10 years earlier.

The epiphany was the global super-conscious vision into a possible future semi-utopian, fully scientific model of a new organization of money systems, and the greed machine of human nature and law controlling them. The very first thoughts were of the very depths of greed and power, and what they truly were, and exactly what controlled them both__yet not until yesterday, with Steve’s post about intelligence being added to greed, did I fully see the dynamics of how this old epiphany truly had to be dealt with__and thanks to Steve, I’ve a new conception of the true governmental power relationships to greed, and how it must be dealt with innately, to possibly reach the masses of individuals__to solve this crucial problem, of humanity’s inability to, thus far, connect truth and wisdom to power.

I’ve often asked myself and others this very question, and it’s the very first post, a year and a half ago, on my newest blog. I’ve personally referred to greed as that inner/innate dynamic that is the core operative of all our desires, all the way from our best emotions, to our grandest schemes of logic and money. It’s the true power-center of our very essence, yet most see it as a thorough evil, but wait a minute__It’s absolutely necessary and like all agents, has two sides of function__the bad, as well as the good, and it’s the good side we must try to see through, as most of us already see far too much of greed’s bad side. Now, you may say; ‘How can greed have that much of a good side?’, especially as relates to government and pure power? Well, that’s the mystery of this lil’ ol’ demon.

It’s truly and purely governmental power, we must educate to acting intelligently about greed, and not the people, per say. Actionable intelligence over the greed machine by governments, would be the greatest advancement of civilization, oh who knows where and when from, forever… Iff we as common citizens, can develop the vision of what’s truly needed to guide government policy decisions over this one area of the greed machine, we could drastically change the world, for the better. Greed needs be inversed/eversed to see how it truly functions. Years have passed since John Law tried to failingly show the government of France how to use the printing of money to enrich the nation and her people, but, What truly went wrong with his ill determined experiment in the mechanics of greed?

He failed because he did not realize greed had to be balanced by greed herself, to have any excess printing of free-money succeed, but this one drastic failure, which left France bankrupt for two generations, is what scared the pinhead academic community from ever looking further into the real mechanics of the government run greed machine__and this is the real failure of all modern governments__Not realizing the power over the greed machine, they truly actually have. Governments, academics and citizens must realize anew, that money can be semi-free-printed to governmentally control the greed machine against itself, thus creating a new symmetry of money’s actions__To truly benefit all humankind__By realizing a new dynamics of supply and demand can be divided by supply and demand itself__to function in an almost perfect balancing act_of private and public enterprise__by the formula of E=1/5X of total exchange trades__which would allow the fairest wage and pricing system, the world has ever known…

I’ll leave this here for now, as most probably think it’s a ghost writing such words. Anyone seriously interested though, may simply ask any question, or make any suggestion they feel appropriate…rrr

[labelwench]

by the formula of E=1/5X of total exchange trades__which would allow the fairest wage and pricing system, the world has ever known…
Originally posted by Lloyd Gillespie

I would be interested in knowing how you have arrived at this formula, Lloyd, and what it represents in terms of chickens, cabbages, heating oil, or what have you.

Numbers, equations and formulas would mean nothing to many of the people with whom I work.

Tangibles, is what we chiefly need, in such case.

Regards,

Labelwench

[SteveA]

Hi Lloyd,

In many ways it's not the printing of money that's a problem, it's the forcing people to accept it in exchange for valuable goods that is where the theft occurs.

Notice that if we had competing currencies, if someone wanted to run the presses to fund a war or their pet projects etc., well as soon as people began to see the value of their savings drop, they've move on to some other manner of maintaining material value.

But in the case of most currencies, the "value" is in the claim that it's good for all debts public and private.

What they want to do is make you accept it (or attempt to intimidate people into accepting it) and that's a good sign that they aren't earning it by trading some valuable service.

Just as an example (I personally think we need sweeping changes, but this is just as an example of something better, in my opinion), say that you paid taxes not to a general fund but instead to a selected representative in government and that whatever costs for some program had to be paid by those representatives.

In that case, if you think someone is just interested in warmongering and you prefer someone trying to assist in infrastructure and reduce a lot of overhead and tolerate greater freedoms, you move your tax support to that representative instead.

In that case you actually have a "voice" and it's not just pooled into a win/lose election (that you normally don't "win") and if a representative proves to have misrepresented themselves, well they lose the financial support, even if its in the middle of a term.

But I really don't want to "clutter" the picture, there are many improvements possible, but they all begin with the #1 most important thing - that people not be held captive by a system and then various institutions should compete for support from people (that's the healthy form of competition, IMO) and this also allows a greater visibility of those things that work and those things that don't. Whatever forms work best for people will gain support and those that don't should be let to fail so that people can move on and learn to do something better.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Hi Lorrina, and you asked about this formula: 'by the formula of E=1/5X of total exchange trades__which would allow the fairest wage and pricing system, the world has ever known…' and how it relates to chickens, cabbages, heating oil, or what have you...?

The formula was actually very simple to figure out, after I'd done all the fundamentals, but it's actually just looking at the real world as it now is organized, where about 20% of total world transactions is international trade, while the other 80% is fixed trade within nations, or there-abouts, with some nations above and below the actual figures. I also applied it to the ownership of wealth between rich and poor citizens of the world, which Pareto had factored over 100 years ago, as his 80-20 law. The E stands for the best state of Economics, and the X stands for traded Exchanges of goods and services by all citizens.

As far as what the inversity of it means for all citizens purchasing chickens, cabbages, heating oil, or what have you, is the fact that were we to realize our true universal economic potential as a collective union, or at the least a loose union of, we could have these items at much lower prices, and be paid much higher wages, thus allowing us all more time to play. It's just the collective ignorance of economics and the academic pinheads, and I also mean at all levels of societies, that holds us in chains. There's no reason, we as free citizens can not be intelligent enough to dream up systems that will support higher wages and profits, with lower prices__may sound contradictory, but I assure you, it's not(real banking system multiplication of credit factors...). It's just our blindness to money's possibilities of actions that keeps us all locked down, in our drunken intellectual conditions...rrr

I would be interested in knowing how you have arrived at this formula, Lloyd, and what it represents in terms of chickens, cabbages, heating oil, or what have you.

Numbers, equations and formulas would mean nothing to many of the people with whom I work.

Tangibles, is what we chiefly need, in such case.

Regards,

Labelwench

[SteveA]

I wonder if there is room for understanding here that some people have a tougher life to deal with, meet less opportunities to feel challenged and it may be more difficult for them to invoke great, positive and happy feelings about life??

I met a woman last year who in a 5 year span lost her oldest teen to murder, her youngest teen to young suicide and then lost her job as a nurse...sometimes life is tough to bear!!

Regards Mikal

And those are exactly some of the reasons why we need to take a better look at the future and see what path(s) to take and not just in material senses but in terms of complete quality of life.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Steve, if you noticed, I already covered this currency situation you speak of: LINK

PPP's(purchasing price parities) Must balance, world wide, before any 'one wage' system can even be seriously considered. Price differentials always control the global wage system, as even Karl Marx finally realized...

PPP's cover all prices of goods, services and commodities(currencies, etc.)...rrr

Notice that if we had competing currencies, if someone wanted to run the presses to fund a war or their pet projects etc., well as soon as people began to see the value of their savings drop, they've move on to some other manner of maintaining material value.

But in the case of most currencies, the "value" is in the claim that it's good for all debts public and private.

[leskey]

MONEY, CURRENCY, CREDIT...

To quote from the series of videos posted by SB:

"Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commernce...and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way of another, by a few powerful men at the top you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression orginate."
- James A Garfield, assassinated President of the USA

"The government should create issue and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of the consumers.
By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest.
The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of government, but it is the governments's greatest creative opportunity."
- Abraham Lincoln, assassinated President of the USA

In addition, there's also a fact that may have relevance to the assassination of President John F Kennedy:

"In June of 1963, the same year as his assassination (1963), Kennedy took aim at one of the most powerful of the 'entrenched interests' of the Establishment: international mercantile banking. President Kennedy authorized the printing of approximately four billion dollars of United States Notes and their release for circulation, thereby entirely bypassing the privately-owned Federal Reserve Bank, established by subterfuge and calculated political manipulation after the notorious secret Jekyll Island meeting. Kennedy's move clearly portended an end to the bankers' monopolistic hold over the nation's money supply and a return to 'constitutional money,' money entirely free of interest to private banks. This apsect of the assassination conspiracy is even less well-known..." - Joseph P Farrell

There's a pattern here. The real battle will be in wresting control from the 'powers that be'...those powers may already be global and may not be governments.

"Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity."
- Marshall McLuhan, media 'guru'

[leskey]

There's nothing like having fun...but (sorry, SB), "...society constrained to good fun only?" Fun can have various connotations.

Fun is all about pleasure: laughter, amusement and play. It can also be dervied at the expense of our contemporaries - motivated by frivilous amusement/teasing, a lack of serious purpose/mischief - it can even be the vehicle for ulterior purpose/calculated malice and derisiveness.

There's a more sustained, meaningful and benefical source of pleasure: kindness.

Kindness is the feeling aspect (as in pleasure) of consciousness; a state of intellectual or emotional balance.

The ego "serves as the organized conscious mediator between the person and reality, especially by functioning both in the perception of and adaptation to reality." The civilized ego has overcome its primitive state. It has advanced and developed to a rationally ordered state which, by its grace, entertains kindness.

Consideration could be given to kindness and ethics as foundational motivating forces for societal change.

Ethics is agreement or harmony with accepted standards; " a cosmic principle, which contributes to energy distribution..."

"If the essence of ethics is a harmony and kindness is a state of energy equilibrium, then mathematical, cosmic ethics certainly acts in the world. It is impossible to violate mathematical laws. “There is no king’s way in geometry” – said Euclid to king Oedipus, who worked on the solution of a difficult geometrical problem. (Velimir Abramovich)"