East Meets West Logic...

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Steve, is this an algorithm generated graphic? If not, where'd you get it? It's great...rrr

[labelwench]

Who is really doing the teaching?
Carried forward from my earlier post. LW

Who is really doing the teaching?

We have this tendency to think that 'teaching' is a function performed by an individual with some form of accreditation.

Passive teaching occurs everytime we observe something.

How many venues have we got for observation today? I doubt that I could name them all, as technology proliferates new 'windows on the world' almost daily.

There is plenty to observe.

Which part should we commit to 'learning?'

How is the observer to make this determination?

What frame of reference can they apply?

Where does one acquire a 'frame of reference'?

Learning occurs, for most, when they attempt to duplicate or emulate a thing which they have observed, often without full comprehension of all which they have witnessed.

The concept of a consequence to an action cannot develop without a broader framework.

Now, take a bit of time to contemplate all that is being observed by a child born today, and then compare that to those observations from your own childhood, which made lasting impression upon you, and in which you still have confidence.

Stealing Arthur's line now.

Write down all that you hold to be true.

As always,

Labelwench

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Thanks for the talking points Lorrina. Let me just take your four main questions, and see how these come out with your talents of pointers added...

Which part should we commit to 'learning?' All I would state here is my own experience as an adult, I really realized about my childhood. The central simplicities of nature and how she truly works, at the visual level, I'd say is the part one should commit to learning, as imo, this teaches the most. Whether it's you observing the nature of horses and their offspring, or simply enjoying nature, I'd point out the geometry involved between those observations and the exact geometry being transferred inside perception, for you, I or anyone to enjoy. Nature's universal visual geometric graphics engine, freely given at birth, is our most precious essence, as without it, the world is a very different place. That one fundamental geometric realization can be transferred in general to all aspects of learning in any field anyone so chooses. Just don't become as obsessed as I am with it. Maintain the central pleasures of nature's natural being and beings...

How is the observer to make this determination? As per above, just choose something that has universal symmetry, and truly pleases you. We'd all like the massive amount of information in the world simplified, I think, and there are many symmetry processes to accomplish this, just choose one that gives you the most clarity. It can be as simple as music you love. That's really the place I started. Some of those `70's poets were true geniuses...

What frame of reference can they apply? One should find that simplest logical frame of reference one is truly comfortable with, and logic does not eliminate emotions, it enhances its processes, imo. My advise is always Ocham's razor, in all fields. The simplest truth or vision, is usually the best ordered results.

Where does one acquire a 'frame of reference'? Imo, one acquires a good 'frame of reference' from one's childhood. If one is to look deep and long enough into the best areas, and even into the worst, as that may be where your first frames were honed, one may see the frame just sitting there waiting for your use. Mine was from my mother scolding me at maybe two or three years old. I remember clearly just glaring/starring at her, until she gave up starring at me, which developed my defiant logic, which I've tried all my life to tame, but at the same time, it's come in very handy, in all my endeavors. So my frame was early formed as a hard logic, for self-emotional survival against that light parental evil, and later I added the geometry to it, when I just got thinking one day, "How does perception truly and logically work?" Working in the field of logic and math all my life probably had a lot to do with it also, though I never realized it until I asked the above question...

As a child, I was always taking everything I could put my hands on, apart__even my father's old Model T Ford. He wasn't very pleased... Through the years, and my job, the frame just kept developing. My 'ground frame of reference' is nature herself, as it was from childhood. I love nature's balance, and I also see it in many women, but not so much in hardly any men. And that's not to butter you up, it's just the way I see it, but at the same time, I see more men with that 'ground frame of reference' in logic and nature, while more women I see, more grounded in family and community. Maybe it's just a personal choice which is best...

Best I got, at the moment...rrr

Who is really doing the teaching?

We have this tendency to think that 'teaching' is a function performed by an individual with some form of accreditation.

Passive teaching occurs everytime we observe something.

How many venues have we got for observation today? I doubt that I could name them all, as technology proliferates new 'windows on the world' almost daily.

There is plenty to observe.

Which part should we commit to 'learning?'

How is the observer to make this determination?

What frame of reference can they apply?

Where does one acquire a 'frame of reference'?

Learning occurs, for most, when they attempt to duplicate or emulate a thing which they have observed, often without full comprehension of all which they have witnessed.

The concept of a consequence to an action cannot develop without a broader framework.

Now, take a bit of time to contemplate all that is being observed by a child born today, and then compare that to those observations from your own childhood, which made lasting impression upon you, and in which you still have confidence.

Stealing Arthur's line now.

Write down all that you hold to be true.

As always,

Labelwench

[SteveA]

Steve, is this an algorithm generated graphic? If not, where'd you get it? It's great...rrr

Yes, it's generated by a chain of mathematical processes. Though this is a unique image, the formulas for this weren't some of my own unique ones (but this class was beautiful and I wanted to learn how to construct them).

Most of these images individually I generate from 4200 to 8000 pixels on a side so that I can print hairline details on a poster size image. They're even beautiful in full scale intricate detail (JPEG compression blurs out quite a bit also).

Here's one algorithm that's a Steve original though (And I've got quite a few of those also). These I like because they're quite unique. I haven't seen anyone else generate images like these (and some of them are almost adult content ... I am not even joking! It's amazing how organic and natural some of these images are):

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Great beetle Steve...:rrr

[SB_UK]

I have a dream, it is the realization that not only all men but more truly all things are equal, and the universe is set free.

=
MJA

Lost someplace somewhere.

Wouldn't it be nice if people could be happy without the need to feel better than another person, animal, thing ... ... ...

That's the point at which equality is realised.

Diversity-different and not 'better than' -
'better than' leading only to irreconcilably-different.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Wouldn't it be nice if people could be happy without the need to feel better than another person, animal, thing ... ... ...

That's the point at which equality is realised.

Diversity-different and not 'better than' -
'better than' leading only to irreconcilably-different.

A new system just popped into my head. Not really workable, or is it...?

"Money Law__The more money one has__The less freedom granted... So become a super-philanthropist to maintain one's freedom iff rich..."

It's just funny this popped into my head when I read your comments... It's a good motto, though__It would save the world, taxing the Rich back to sanity...rrr

Welcome back,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ25-glGRzI&feature=related

[MJA]

Lost someplace somewhere.

Wouldn't it be nice if people could be happy without the need to feel better than another person, animal, thing ... ... ...

That's the point at which equality is realised.

Diversity-different and not 'better than' -
'better than' leading only to irreconcilably-different.

Health is happiness, be it One or All.

=
MJA

[SB_UK]

\/ butterfly wings
---

\\ direction of motion of butterfly
\\\
----
///\




\......./
~~~~~
/........\


|\......./|
|~~~~~|
|/........\|

In algebraic geometry, lemniscate refers to any of several figure-eight or ∞ shaped curves, of which the best known is the Lemniscate of Bernoulli.
The most general visual form for this curve is seen as a toric section of a torus.
It is also sometimes used to refer to the symbol used in mathematics as a symbol for infinity.

oooooooooooooooooooooooo n=24
------------------------
oooooooooooooooooooooooo
attach the ends - ring cycle



<- pineal gland



/// <- axis
(/)
/

//// <- axis
///
//

////// > \ rotation
\\\\\\ < /
<- axis


~*~



I think that the directionality vector (white line with an arrow) is rotating about its central axis -
and that the energy is being passed to the butterfly structures shown (electro and magnetism).

When 24 (Rayleigh no.) butterflies form -
we've one rotation of the central axis -
- at which point evolution need be driven of that entire structure.

So

axis introduces energy -> drives magnetism -> drives electro -> drives magnetism -> drives electro ... ... ...

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o
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o

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--
o

until

oooooooooooooooooooooooo n=24
------------------------
oooooooooooooooooooooooo
attach the ends - ring cycle


- at which point any further energy passed into the structure through its centre -
results in complexity (the entire structure formed above)
- to repeat the same basic process over.

Evolution of abstraction layers -
one over the other.
Effectively shielded from one another.

The underlying power source may be imagined to be in the same frame as the rotation of the body would be
(central portion - the caterpillar part)
of the butterfly -
- driving motion in its wings:



( ) -------- ( ) rotation

==

-> rotation occurring within the coil.

It's not possible to have a chemistry without a physics -
though chemistry (the behaviour of elements)
- can be studied without prior knowledge of the subatomic structure of the chemical element.

The basis to 'God is within us -
in the air we breathe'.

[labelwench]

Hello SB__UK,

I observe that you have an image and mention of "pineal gland" thrown in with that post.

The pineal gland is quite small, but has huge influence on many other of our functions, as I recall.

What particular relevance is this in your post, if you don't mind explaining this for me?

Regards,

Lorrina