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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    East meets West



    -

    o
    -


    o
    -
    o


    oo
    --
    o


    until

    oooooooooooooooooooooooo n=24
    ------------------------
    oooooooooooooooooooooooo

    attach the ends - ring cycle

    The answer (solution (duality being driven by and driving an orthogonal circle) described in previous post) can be found in om.

    )
    ) duality (electro and magnetism)

    )
    - <- central axis
    )

    )
    - <- central axis turns an orthogonal circle () to duality
    )

    /////////. -> sun
    /////////_ -> moon

    sun - radio waves

    )
    --- ()
    )

    moon - gamma waves

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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    Quote Originally Posted by MJA View Post
    Health is happiness, be it One or All.

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    Should one be so fortunate as to have been born with good health, it is certainly a gift to treasure and enjoy.

    Our human form and mind affords us so much sensory input, it truly reminds us that 'the best things in life, are free.'

    A recent study has also demonstrated that people who spend more time in nature, or even add natural decor and plants to their home and work environments, tend to be more caring and compassionate individuals.

    Lack of interest in natural objects has been observed to equate with more negative personality traits.

    Rather intriguing that someone got around to doing the research, not that the results surprise me. It coincides with much that I have observed myself.

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    would, but I could, experience them all...

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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    The basis to 'God is within us - in the air we breathe'. I've been saying we could understand the TAO for years, yes...

    Just for now, let me post these ideas I posted on ProfPat's thread. I do agree more with the universal quantum geometry being able to be penetrated, than I did just a week ago. I'm generally seeing it as a universal hydrodynamically driven geometry, from field/s to black-holes, to stars, to whole galaxies, to planetary systems, and finally to bio-life systems. The velocities and voltages of the em-waves involved within the different substances, from rocks to bio-slimes, would greatly control the forward velocities of the central chiral motions, which you picture above, as the turning of the central axis, which I've shown in that orthogonal drawing of last month_thus would govern the velocity of rotations, as all must function within the conservation of the angular momentum laws of QM. I think different bio-organisms and plants would have different rates of spins/chirals also, and possibly some right handed, while others would be left handed, thus creating the cross-complexities of the bio-world, i.e., RNA/DNA. Pat also has a drawing similar to your purple orthogonal above, that I believe was hand-drawn by some of the early 20th century physicists. It's way back in his posts...

    Anyway, for now here's what I posted there__I see all this aligning with your ideas:
    My views are always based in both asymptotic and symptotic motions combined, as all protons, which are asymptotic, carry the w and z force energies in their quarks, thus would require symptotic extended fields. Imo, the quarks interact dynamically, as fields within each's fields, since w and z quarks are Bosons, they can super-position and clone/create new wave/particles, such as neutrons and neutrinos_then on into the bio-world__It really gets interesting.

    I use the formula X/X=1+IEE to represent the hydrodynamic geometry that may be taking place. X=any particle divided by itself, and 1= its self X, I=isomorphic, E=extension, and E=entanglement, as all particles are either made up of fermions or bosons, or both, but imo, there's always isomorphic mapping from the first state to the next, through orthogonal geometries' paths maintained/preserved, as information must always be preserved, in order to maintain universal symmetries__A universal law of symmetries.

    I see it all as a hydrodynamic geometry, but very complex, so I only see it at present as a general flow. Of course I'm just theorizing from what the universe, and everyone's threads and posts on ToeQuest has offered, plus my inter-relationships of how our internal hydrodynamic geometry of perception, must function to maintain the continuity of images(present and memory stored), all our lives, and this would be required to be an information preserving path of em-waves/photons, etc, but always symmetry preserving, and our perception would have to be acting with the same mechanics of QCD, to preserve the uncertainty principle of free-will__bio-choices over field/s actions/motions, etc.

    Imo, it's one completed hydrodynamic universal geometry at all levels, from the squirting black holes' jets' geometries, you've pictured way back in your posts, to a seed to grow a tree__Imo, it's a hydrodynamic geometry in, and a possible semi-fractal/fractal geometry out, due to all the geometric paths required of fields to travel, which would include the isomorphic extensions and entanglements, as roots and branch systems, etc., plus the fermions basic asymptotic non-entanglements. Of course all the wave/particle interferences direct the path of all em-wave/particles, between fermions that can't directly entangle and bosons that can directly entangle__My picture is still building__Imcomplete as yet, but seems to cover everyone's sensible ideas, on this forum__So far...

    Realize, this is just my theorizing__Not fact yet, so take it all with a grain of salt...rrr
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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post
    Hello SB__UK,
    I observe that you have an image and mention of "pineal gland" thrown in with that post.
    The pineal gland is quite small, but has huge influence on many other of our functions, as I recall.
    What particular relevance is this in your post, if you don't mind explaining this for me?
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    An attempt (I think) to liken human evolution with the white dwarf.



    Transcript: Where Do Stars Go When They Die?
    '... and you're left with basically a diamond'
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    Trying to suggest that the brain sand of the pineal gland (crystals) and the crystal formed on evolution of the star
    - are reflective of the same basic process.

    Trying to suggest that the evolutionary processes of the dying star and of the dying (cf resurrection of Christ) human being are sufficiently strongly aligned to use our knowledge of each to help us to understand the other.

    reference - the post (from a couple of weeks back) which features water jets being ejected from a dying star.

    The two ends of the gastro-intestinal system and parasympathetic nervous system activation leading to salivation and micturition.



    Also noting - the pulsations described in the 'dying star' reference above:
    '...really cool to watch because you can see something that is, over just six hours, expanding and contracting like a beating heart.'
    ... ... and described in a post to SteveA (also a couple of weeks ago).

    A peculiar throbbing/itchy vaguely pleasant, reasonably peculiar sensation which feels a little as though one has gained the capacity to scratch an itch within the very centre of one's brain.


    - an itch which is (ordinarily) kinda' difficult to scratch.
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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    "Money Law__The more money one has__The less freedom granted... So become a super-philanthropist to maintain one's freedom iff rich..."
    That's a nice thought
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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    Quote Originally Posted by labelwench View Post
    Should one be so fortunate as to have been born with good health, it is certainly a gift to treasure and enjoy.
    Our human form and mind affords us so much sensory input, it truly reminds us that 'the best things in life, are free.'
    A recent study has also demonstrated that people who spend more time in nature, or even add natural decor and plants to their home and work environments, tend to be more caring and compassionate individuals.
    Lack of interest in natural objects has been observed to equate with more negative personality traits.
    Rather intriguing that someone got around to doing the research, not that the results surprise me. It coincides with much that I have observed myself.
    Lorrina
    Absolutely though I think that there's an element of human change leading to the capacity to gain increasingly more stimulation from nature.

    As though (with development of mind) - we can open a door to increased satisfaction (more than we experience during our first 30 years of life) -

    - the 'doors of perception' openly brought to mind.

    Smells.
    Colours.

    The linear mind takes a hit and is lost to the daydream.

    The 'zone' from aerobic exercise -
    maybe more so.

    Feels as though we're sleeping whilst awake; use of one's voice (the vocal cords) strictly not permitted.

    The surprising aspect to this state is that it doesn't serve to help us to operate better in this current 'make money or die' society -
    the state is more closely allied to calm.

    'Nothing to get hung about'
    Unfortunately though there's everything to get hung up about until we learn a mechanism to convey the message (in a meaningful way)
    - of everything we're doing wrong.

    And what are we doing wrong?

    That feeling of dread when one thinks about other people -
    give me all your money!
    is a symptom of the malaise.

    We have a set of social norms which're no longer for the best of society.

    Competition between people
    for anything particularly
    no longer
    (has never actually) worked;
    was
    an
    'animal'
    thing.
    'Everything you do is a balloon'
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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
    I think different bio-organisms and plants would have different rates of spins/chirals also, and possibly some right handed, while others would be left handed, thus creating the cross-complexities of the bio-world...
    absolutely.


    <- duck OR rabbit ->

    ... ... just the first ten which come to mind
    - of the animals going in 2 by 2.

    There can only be a pure mathematical basis for these concave - convex dualities.

    ... ... first ten to come to mind ... ...

    (dolphin) <porpoise>
    (sheep) <goat>
    (bee) <wasp>
    (hedgehog) <porcupine>
    (pig) <warthog>
    (deer) <antelope>
    (chicken) <turkey>
    (rabbit) <hare>
    (duck) <mallard>

    concave - female tedency - light loving - nurturing - smaller - group tendency - irritatingly talkative - prettier - wider

    convex - male tendency - dark loving - aggression - taller - faster - 'loner' tendency - silent - uglier
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    Re: East Meets West Logic...





    that's it

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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    Quote Originally Posted by ->lw View Post
    Smells.
    Colours.
    Evolution of man likened to the evolution of the caterpillar
    - likened to the evolution of a star

    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine Bush
    Look at the light, all the time it's a changing
    Look at the light, climbing up the aerial
    Bright, white coming alive jumping off the aerial
    All the time it's a changing, like now…
    All the time it's a changing, like then again…
    All the time it's a changing
    And the dreamers are waking.
    aerial
    cf

    antennae (butterfly)

    light
    cf
    nebula (blown off from the dying star)

    ~*~

    more simply -

    - an evolutionary transition (life-cycle) which we understand from nature (caterpillar to butterfly) and astronomy (the dying star)
    - a pattern which we may reflect back onto ourselves

    - can use to define our own context within reality.

    And the dreamers are awaking


    No matter how important money appears -
    - just plain isn't

    ... ... gets
    in
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    way
    is all.
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    Re: East Meets West Logic...

    concave - female tedency - light loving - nurturing - smaller - group tendency - irritatingly talkative - prettier - wider

    convex - male tendency - dark loving - aggression - taller - faster - 'loner' tendency - silent - uglier
    The thrusting icosahedron
    - the protective enveloping dodecahedron

    - a geometric duality which gives birth to an ever ongoing stairway to complexity

    icosahedron - change
    dodecahedron - stability

    ~*~

    It all comes together;
    we're all

    it's all

    one.
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