East Meets West Logic...

[Graybeard]

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[SteveA]

Well I do appreciate the discussion, Lloyd as it's always good to dig into disagreements and see where they arise but I do agree that it's pulling things off your initial topic and we've already gone through enough of the disagreements to see the differences clearly so I'll stop detracting from your initial topic.

Thanks again for the discussion (I seriously do appreciate these because I've learned over time that finding that common ground gives valuable insights into "how it all works").

Until another time ...
Steve

[SB_UK]

26th March 1941
versus
8th January 1942

9 months, gestation, conception, experience, conceived, perception.



To be fair, it's possible that one might have experienced the delirium of alcohol before the other was even conceived.

[Mikal]

Hi Mikal, and let me ask you a few serious questions. What about the situation where too much feelings' awareness, blinds us to intellectual necessities...? And what about the situation where to much intellectual awareness, blinds us to emotional necessities...? Is there truly a resolution in either of these cases...? Can a true and honest balance be found, without detracting from one or the other...? This is one of the problems the ancients discussed, and therefore decided perfection was an impossible state to achieve...rrr

You know Lloyd, looking back over the experience of my life as it transformed my personality, character and mental and emotional state, I was intellectually growing through my research as I was emotionally maturing by consciously taking part in meeting and facing the emotional fears that had been conditioned into me. Neither state blinded the other, they just grew together into maturity and what is maturity but to be finely skilled in managing your own life and managing the situations that crop up to be passed through and dealing effectively with unexpected events and changes that come your way. Maturity has to do with refining the ability to strategize!
I’m an intellectual, I know that but when I had to meet a tremendous family tragedy the fact that I am an intellectual did not blind me to the emotional necessities I had to deal with to get myself and many others through that tragedy.
I don’t believe we can be perfect, we can see ourselves as perfect in our imperfection because we are always becoming….and yes because we are human, perfection is an impossible state to achieve but there is this little thing like agreeing to struggle with yourself…nothing wrong with that, it just makes one stronger…

Regards Mikal

[Mikal]

Dear Peoples .... this is just a general reminder that those participating in this thread should clearly understand it theme. Must stay on topic. The thread owner has the right to direct the thread's direction.

He has made reasonable requests.

Any off posts topics, or wandering from the theme ... will result in deleted posts. Continuation will result in official warnings.

I am including myself in this, as I have also wandered from the theme recently.

Please make it easy for me

Ta! ... graybeard (mod)

Apologies Greg...but I am answering a question Lloyd ask me...1000 pardons...


Regards Mikal

[Graybeard]

1000 pardons given little Lady

Kiss

[SB_UK]

Must stay on topic.

East Meets West Logic...

My experience of the West suggests that we're overburdened by rules - whereas the East could do with a little more organization.

We've (in the UK) a two party political system -
both of which are the same

- and India (for instance) has blimmin' 12.5 zillion political parties.

... ... where you're nobody unless you've stood for election as the Nation's Prime Minister in at least 2 elections in 3.

~s wikiP~

~*~

Either wayz -
- nothing can be achieved.

~*~

Solution

One global government (a synchronized species) to free us from alla' this nonsense.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

~s wikiP~
Solution

One global government (a synchronized species) to free us from alla' this nonsense.

My vote is for one esthetically programmed computer__running all the nonsense into sense__thus eliminating the corrupt humans, entirely__No human tampering, unless algorithm of new necessary changes is first esthetically created__Then, and only then, it can be entered...rrr

[SB_UK]

My vote is for one esthetically programmed computer__running all the nonsense into sense__thus eliminating the corrupt humans, entirely__No human tampering, unless algorithm of new necessary changes is first esthetically created__Then, and only then, it can be entered...rrr

Sounds perfect - if possible.

Is it possible?

I think yes.

Making the automated procedure as simple and transparent as possible would help to overcome the major problem which such a scheme would encounter -
public hostility through fear from watching too many 'Terminator' movies.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

A Few Computerization Ideas...

A Computerized Capitalism - Agreement By A Supra-International Constitution

"The computer, by necessity of markets, will evolve the world to internal exchange clearing." LG

An economic, universal justice system of supply and demand computerized databases, based on Boolean logic and sliding time scale law structures, with dynamic pricing balances, can be built and implemented world wide, to solve our over-pressing problems! Derivatives database supply and demand, the world's largest economic reality, is controlling the entire planet, now! This, my friends, must change!

We have the ability to computerize capitalism into balance, solve our problems, and honor the entirety of human yearnings.

A random computer code based on a sliding time scale of adjustments toward a balance of exchange rates and a balance of payments, fully encrypted and state secretly implemented - fully secretly is needed!

The world is computerizing itself to save itself from man!

Computers will force balanced or cleared exchanges on us.

Computer programs and international constitutions can be written to properly balance the electronic empires and the rights of man - the people.

The international financial architecture is computerized on the profit motive only. It needs to be computerized on the public good motive. [use Nash's equilibrium theories and laws to prove]

We have the technology and ability to write a computer program to honestly re-balance global finances. [use Nash and Franklin ideas]

We have the technology and ability to computerize suzeraintic capitalism into honest government and finance.

The Heinz-57 capitalisms and the Heinz-57 totalitarianisms can be computerized into incorruptible and honest capitalism.

We must computerize capitalism to save the world from financial destruction, because the big boys in the tall buildings have learned how to computer rob the entire system. [Boolean logic]

The massive problem of computerized speculation of financial markets requires a new computerization of international capitalism, to rectify.

Computerized systems can control prices to allow semi-free printing of taxes.

There are five alternative systems - Reverse Incentive Capitalism - Tally Computer Capitalism - Public and Private Enterprise Capitalism - International Currency Clearing Capitalism and The Fixed/Equilibriated Exchange Variant - That's three forms of internal exchange clearing and two forms of external exchange clearing.

Computer controlled supply and demand perfect competition...

An international constitution of computerized exchange clearing, based on a 1 to 20% per year sliding time scale law structure, written toward balancing global prices and values, can achieve the golden moral mean - A pragmatic and logical center of thought.

We have the technology and ability to computerize capitalism's unbalanced pricing system into a super-moral perfect competition balance! The answer is, balance the prices!

We need state computerization of certain financial transactions.

We have the ability to computerize global problems into extinction!

An economic, universal justice system of supply and demand computerized databases, based on Boolean logic and sliding time scale law structures, with dynamic pricing balances, can be built and implemented world wide, to solve our over-pressing problems! Derivatives database supply and demand shadow banking, the world's largest economic reality, is controlling the entire planet, now! This, my friends, must change!

Our future is international constitutional computerized finance.

We need the proper computerization of the law structures to make capitalism work right - again!

The corrupted systems can be computerized into honesty and incorruptibility!

In my opinion, man is incapable of respecting the natural laws, so society will, one day, have to be turned over to computers!

Those past systems that failed, Law, Franklin, Kitson, and Keynes, and or were never instituted, can be perfected with derivatives insurance and modern computerizations.

"The computer age - One moment's truth - Next moment's lie!" LG

We have the ability to computerize all global interdisciplinary thought into a universal coherent balance, by uniting the natural laws of nature with the natural laws of mind and the statecrafted laws of man.

We have the ability to computerize global values and morality into balance - Now!

The soul thinks mathematically pure - The trickster thinks good/evil - The perfect computer of mind and essence balances!

We have the ability to computerize all global thought into understandable universal truths with a new intuitive wisdom logic.

"100 years from now, capitalism will have passed into computer controlled societies, honoring our entire intuitive essences." [intuition outside the cone of knowledge]

Moral logic verses Boolean logic - Man against and for computers...

A world of computerized money systems beyond law systems control...

The computer controlled arbitrage of law, money, and power systems...

A world run by a virtuous computer…

Radio, TV, and computers granting of the 4th dimension of time - past and future awareness +...

The soul of "god" and man is a mathematical computer of natural law logic.

The nihilistic unconscious wills of computers controlling the world...rrr