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    Hope, wish and faith

    It’s been a long time since I wrote anything other than poems. So, this may become kinda boring. And, I wanted to write this like three nights back. But due to some reasons (which are not of much interest to me and being sure they are not of much interest to you...) I couldn't write it then. So, it may not come of as too good a post. Anyway, here goes.

    There are two words that we can use without making much sense to others. Which are, no doubt you have guessed, 'Hope' and 'Wish'

    So, I was hoping I could, may be try to ponder on these two subjects or concepts or simply just words.

    'Wish' is to attain something that at the moment seems unattainable. A 'wish' is usually for an 'external source' to fulfill that quest or to make that quest 'attainable' by some miracle or by some other means which are plausible and hence un-miraculous.

    A wish is to fulfill a deep desire (may be) but is not a desire in itself. 'Wish' also has another word tied to its back, which is 'Hope'.

    We wish to 'attain' something. And the external source (probably time) makes it attainable. And this mental approach to believe that something will happen is I believe 'Hope' (Couldn't find better words there, sorry )

    'Hope' is what keeps the mind from going mad by wishing madly (This has may be started to sound too abstract, but these are words and to expound on them is troublesome. I can, whatever I may want, just try)

    I wish this letter may make sense. And the 'may make sense' part would be the 'hope', as this is what indicates the probability that the sentence holds.

    Hope is to wish for that probability to become a 'possibility'. Be it in any quest small, large or medium

    We may choose to tie this 'hope'. As we want to hold on to it as this is what drives us to unattainable places.

    It’s like 'flying a kite'. We always want to fly the kite 'higher and higher'. But, of course there are limitations.

    We tie the kite to a thread. And hold it in our hands. The 'holding'- consider it to be faith. If faith is within us, it is internal. If we do want to hold on to the kite, we do want to believe we can hold on to it, which is ‘faith’.

    But, we also have faith in the external which is 'Hope'. We hope that the thread won't break. That the winds won't die down. To 'hope' for the improbable external to be 'probable';

    To have 'hope' that the thread won't break, we 'wish'. And so 'hope' that the wish will come true.

    Is it too nonsensical?

    So, in this abstract nonsense where does science come into picture?

    Science is the limit to what we can 'wish' or 'hope'. Or something that determines if the 'hope' and 'wish' have any basis. We can't fly the kite higher than the length of the string- measurement. We can't fly a kite in the middle of summer- 'geography or some other science which studies weather' and we can't fly the kite if the thread is too 'weak'. Again some part of physics may be the amount of 'tension' the string can hold.

    So, a wish that all these probable things will not become a possibility is 'faith'. Which we need to hold on to if we choose to 'wish' and so to 'hope'.

    hmmm, may be its too abstract. Or too unnecessary or too boring.

    There are limitations to wish and hope in the abstract sense too on which I wanted to write, but thought I shouldn't. They would fall under the heading
    'When hope becomes necessity' and 'when hope becomes desire'.

    Thank you,


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    Re: Hope, wish and faith

    "If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride."

    An expression often heard.

    A wish is often a goal, which may be an object, an action, a state or a combination of things, depending on what one is wishful for.

    Hope is defined as expectation and desire combined. Therefore, I may 'hope' to attain my 'wish'. The goal, or 'wish' is an objective that usually depends on a course of action to attain, and 'hope' gives some direction to this action.

    Faith is a reliance or trust in the course of action in attaining the goal.

    We tend to rely on experienced precedent (either our own experience, or that learned through history or our mentors) in the shaping of our strategy or 'hope' to determine the desired objective or outcome that is our 'wish'.

    Many people express wishes, but lack in hope or faith and take no action to achieve their wish. A wish without action, is merely wishful thinking.

    The hope or experience may come through another, and so may begin an interaction. Often, a mentor may suggest one or several paths to attain the wish, but the action must be undertaken by the one who wishes.

    The faith or trust in the course of action, must likewise be supplied by the one who wishes, although, once again, others may prove helpful in offering encouragement along the journey.

    A goal,.......action,......commitment to stay the course, even when it offers challenge or requires a temporary change of direction.

    Persons who gain an understanding of the relationship between these three most often will find meaning in their lives.

    "The longest journey begins with the first step...."
    So many paths to the same destination,
    would, but I could, experience them all...

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    Re: Hope, wish and faith

    — Halfway There —

    Daydreams pierce the noise of consciousness
    To reveal that which is best for us—yes—
    Mere aspiration halves realization;
    What we have now was once a dream, no less.


    — Wishing-Well —

    When tomorrow’s well is full, will we drink?
    Or should we live today? Must we sit and think?
    If so, then even today is too late—
    The wise just lived yesterday to the brink!

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    Re: Hope, wish and faith

    A most unique song.....

    Carl Sagan, A Glorious Dawn

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    So many paths to the same destination,
    would, but I could, experience them all...

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    Re: Hope, wish and faith

    — Dreams Take Wing —

    I seize on life’s phantom dream, dimly seen.
    Tremendous image! I will join thy scene:
    Aspiration sires realization!
    Living my dreams will soon become routine.


    — Dreams Become —

    Moulded from thoughts and feelings, she draws me
    Into the scene—dissolving into me!
    Thou art in me, my phantasm, till the
    Heart whose dream created you recalls thee.


    — Phantasmagoria —

    Of you I dream, phantasm of thought’s delight,
    Breathing life into you that passions excite.
    As the night kisses the day, our spirits unite,
    Intertwined in the magic of twilight.


    — Vaporous Steam —

    Slumbering in the orient sunbeam,
    I awake as a dewdrop, all agleam,
    Refreshed by the delight of my daydream,
    And rise as mist, carried on the day-beam.


    — Perpetual Emotion —

    Throughout the day, I’m living out my dream,
    Drifting on air, aloft in a day-beam—
    Causing, when condensing in night’s dark stream,
    Many more such wondrous dreams, it would seem.


    — Ascending —

    Ambition’s mist drifts upward each morning,
    Outlining daydreams, although still forming,
    But rising still into the clear sunlight,
    And taking shape, sculpting clouds, then sailing.


    — Fruition —

    Success blossoms out of a thoughtful dream,
    Grown from seeds of what life to you should seem—
    Then bears forth fruit healthy and delicious,
    In the garden watered by a wishing stream.


 

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