Darwin's Discovery: Design without a Designer

[Mikal]

Hey Lesk…thanks for link, interesting study statements and thoughts…must apologize for seeming tardy but back to back long shifts…night to day so came home spent of energy and partially brain depleted…lol….had to catch some zzzzzs…

I have been studying Torsion or ‘wind’ in the brain due to genetic experiments and study statements that provoked me to more expansive thoughts….those statements below as follows:

A unified field of consciousness emerges from a previously overlooked physical vacuum or energy matrix.
It is thought that this non-local energy field functions through quantum connections between DNA or Torsional energy considered to be universal creative consciousness.

Genetic experiments are smashing paradigms.

Gariaev and Poponin's discovery of the "DNA Phantom Effect," which proves, 1) "A type of energy exists that has previously gone unrecognized"; and 2) "Cells/DNA influence matter through this form of energy"

The second experiment, reported in the journal Advances, was performed by the United States Army in the tradition of similar experiments conducted by Cleve Backster. The Army's experiment clearly demonstrated that the connection between DNA and emotion continues intact following physical separation between a person's DNA (sampled from inside the person's mouth) and the actual person experiencing the emotion.
this experiment suggests that 1) "A previously unrecognized form of energy exists between living tissues"; 2) "Cells and DNA communicate through this field of energy"; 3) "Human emotion has a direct influence on living DNA"; and 4) "Distance appears to be of no consequence with regard to the effect."



Extraordinary research of cell biologist Glen Rein on the impact of coherent human emotion on DNA: Here, DNA inside human cells was isolated in a glass beaker and then analyzed (chemically and visually) in order to determine the impact of clearly sustained emotions, negative and positive, on genetic material as well as expression. According to Dr. Rein, "These experiments revealed that different intentions produced different effects on the DNA molecule causing it to either wind or unwind."

I am searching ‘asymmetry and symmetry’ in relationship to the brain, our newly developing heart brain system, nervous system, vascular system and then in relationship to DNA and changes in consciousness.

Thank you for adding to my search…..
Regards Mikal

[SteveA]

I think I've got a pretty clear view about what all the references are to "nothing/void/space" etc. with regard to concepts like vacuum energy and creation of something from nothing etc.

A (non-infinite) void is simply a quantity a number, but it's a space of possible positions. These possibilities exist as a context that allow information or meaning to be interpreted from the selection/detection/creation of a point within that "space" of possibilities. Information is context dependent and only has a specific meaning when placed within such a "space", but this context is not something measurable - a photometer measures no energy when viewing a black room, yet we still consciously detect "blackness" where no measurable physical energy is detected.

As a quick example, if we had the digit 0 as a selection from the binary pair of 0 or 1, then 0 provides enough information to make an coherent/logical/rigid association between 2 possible contexts (so we could see a construction of an association of this form along the lines of "when A, then C else if B, then D" and this could act similar to a wire or line of communication from the A/B space of possibilities to correlations with the C/D possibilities.

But let's say that instead of the digit 0 being in the context of a binary digit, it was instead a decimal digit. Now this 0 "inherits" a context of referring to 1 of 10 possible states (0 to 9) and this is the equivalent of a larger energy/precision etc. and can construct a larger set of correlations between other things.

Of course physically, a 0 is a 0 and has no specific context except to whatever extent we've learned/created/defined etc. such contexts to exist.

What things are is only specific to the extent the rest of the space of what something is not is also present.

As a similar analogy, words have no specific meaning without a language or vocabulary. The larger the vocabulary involved in a conversation and the more selective and precise the use of words is, the greater the information conveyed by each word. So in this sense, it's the words that were not spoken that can, in a reciprocal sense to be seen to define specifically what the word that was spoken meant.

This I believe is largely the concept involved in many related subjects regarding vacuum/void/nothingness etc. and it's interesting to consider that even a single photon detection, within an unbounded context is capable of defining or describing an unbounded quantity of information as well, though there's more to this as these appear to possess spectra of properties as well and transformations between these quantities could be interpreted to occur via exchanges of discrete n-way symmetrical information (as selections of some subset of possibilities - so we could see photons in a physical sense making selections from among a finite set of possibilities as roughly reflected in the wave function in QM).

So context, though intangible, is ironically what really gives meaning to the rest and in a sense the only reason we can detect a photon somewhere is because of all the other possible positions we know of that it wasn't detected and it's ironic that it's everything intangible that gives meaning/position/form to that which would be considered tangible.

[leskey]

I'm yet to catch up on recent posts in this thread, but will do so soon. In the meantime, here's an evolutionary theory based on evidence:

http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/bl...-untold-story/

You probably know that bacteria develop resistance to antibiotics. The more we use antibiotics, the more resistance bacteria develop and the harder it is to kill them. We all know that we must not over-use antibiotics. But has anyone ever told you how bacteria generate this resistance in the first place?

Hint: It doesn’t happen by accident.

You’re fighting off an infection and you’re taking antibiotics. To the bacteria, the antibiotic is poison. It leaks into the bacteria cell wall and begins to kill it. The bacteria says, “This poison is killing me. I have to find a way to pump this out of my system!”

It travels around in your body, hunting for a pump.

It locates a cell somewhere in your body that has a pump. It extracts a copy of that cell’s DNA from a plasmid. It locates the section of the new DNA that codes for a pump, inserts that code into its own existing DNA, and builds a pump.

This is called Horizontal Gene Transfer or HGT. It is one of the most common evolutionary mechanisms. This is “real world evolution.” It’s been observed in labs for 50 years now. Because of HGT, the traditional evolutionary “tree of life” isn’t really a tree, especially among lower organisms. Because of genes being passed back and forth between organisms, it’s more like a web.

If the new pump does its job, then the bacteria can now resist the antibiotic. It now produces other bacteria that inherit the same resistance.

But it also does something else: It finds its bacteria brothers and sisters in your system and gives them the same piece of code!

Now ALL the bacteria in your system have a pump that makes them immune to the antibiotic. Your only chance is to find a more powerful antibiotic or hope your body can find some other way to kill them.

Consider what Horizontal Gene Transfer tells you about bacteria:

1. They know what new features they need to survive attack
2. They actively seek out other organisms with those features
3. They exchange and read the DNA of other organisms
4. They analyze the DNA of those organisms
5. They locate the sections of DNA that they need
6. They splice the correct sections of DNA into their own DNA
7. They build entire new complex structures with the instructions in that DNA
8. They evaluate the success of what they’ve done
9. They pass the adaptations along to their offspring
10. They evangelize the newly acquired code to their fellow bacteria

Notice that this does not take thousands of generations. It takes one! Through HGT, an organism can acquire a completely new feature in one step. No gradual accumulation of errors necessary.

Bacteria are not stupid. Invading organisms stage an attack, an arms race against your immune system. Bacteria are as skilled at using code as as any software programmer you’ve ever met.

Hmmm… what tricks could software engineers pick up by studying bacteria?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_gene_transfer

Artificial horizontal gene transfer is a form of genetic engineering.

If 'artificial' horizontal gene transfer is genetic engineering, why can't the statement simply read: "horizontal gene transfer is genetic engineering"?

Horizontal gene transfer is intelligence with motive/purpose in action.

INTELLIGENCE:

the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations : reason; also : the skilled use of reason : the ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria (as tests)

This also intimates that a brain is not a pre-requisite for intelligence...or, even thought...?

This is open for 'intelligent' comment and the submission of any evidence supporting a contrary hypothesis...

[leskey]

I think I've got a pretty clear view about what all the references are to "nothing/void/space" etc. with regard to concepts like vacuum energy and creation of something from nothing etc.

A (non-infinite) void is simply a quantity a number, but it's a space of possible positions. These possibilities exist as a context that allow information or meaning to be interpreted from the selection/detection/creation of a point within that "space" of possibilities. Information is context dependent and only has a specific meaning when placed within such a "space", but this context is not something measurable - a photometer measures no energy when viewing a black room, yet we still consciously detect "blackness" where no measurable physical energy is detected.

As a quick example, if we had the digit 0 as a selection from the binary pair of 0 or 1, then 0 provides enough information to make an coherent/logical/rigid association between 2 possible contexts (so we could see a construction of an association of this form along the lines of "when A, then C else if B, then D" and this could act similar to a wire or line of communication from the A/B space of possibilities to correlations with the C/D possibilities.

But let's say that instead of the digit 0 being in the context of a binary digit, it was instead a decimal digit. Now this 0 "inherits" a context of referring to 1 of 10 possible states (0 to 9) and this is the equivalent of a larger energy/precision etc. and can construct a larger set of correlations between other things.

Of course physically, a 0 is a 0 and has no specific context except to whatever extent we've learned/created/defined etc. such contexts to exist.

What things are is only specific to the extent the rest of the space of what something is not is also present.

As a similar analogy, words have no specific meaning without a language or vocabulary. The larger the vocabulary involved in a conversation and the more selective and precise the use of words is, the greater the information conveyed by each word. So in this sense, it's the words that were not spoken that can, in a reciprocal sense to be seen to define specifically what the word that was spoken meant.

This I believe is largely the concept involved in many related subjects regarding vacuum/void/nothingness etc. and it's interesting to consider that even a single photon detection, within an unbounded context is capable of defining or describing an unbounded quantity of information as well, though there's more to this as these appear to possess spectra of properties as well and transformations between these quantities could be interpreted to occur via exchanges of discrete n-way symmetrical information (as selections of some subset of possibilities - so we could see photons in a physical sense making selections from among a finite set of possibilities as roughly reflected in the wave function in QM).

So context, though intangible, is ironically what really gives meaning to the rest and in a sense the only reason we can detect a photon somewhere is because of all the other possible positions we know of that it wasn't detected and it's ironic that it's everything intangible that gives meaning/position/form to that which would be considered tangible.

CONTEXT:

the parts of a discourse that surround a word or passage and can throw light on its meaning

Excellent post, Steve! Expressed coherently. Now here's a couple of questions, which may be naive or just plain dumb, but I'll never know if I don't ask:

• Could a photon (a unit of light) moving through space, be the effect of information exchange?

• Could the rate of information exchange at a space co-ordinate (this is how I perceive time) be represented by (an holographic?) 'construction' developing at a specific site?

Let me know if I'm incoherent...

[labelwench]

Bacteria are ubiquitous in every habitat on Earth, growing in soil, acidic hot springs, radioactive waste,water, and deep in the Earth's crust, as well as in organic matter and the live bodies of plants and animals. There are typically 40 million bacterial cells in a gram of soil and a million bacterial cells in a millilitre of fresh water; in all, there are approximately five nonillion (5×1030) bacteria on Earth,forming much of the world's biomass.[

Other life forms could not exist without bacteria.

Only a small percentage of bacteria are pathogenic to our species, yet we indiscriminately target all bacterial forms.

That this should result in the bacteria mutating and becoming resistant to our interventions is only predictable, IMO.

Thank you Leskey, for those excellent links.

[SteveA]

CONTEXT:

the parts of a discourse that surround a word or passage and can throw light on its meaning

Excellent post, Steve! Expressed coherently. Now here's a couple of questions, which may be naive or just plain dumb, but I'll never know if I don't ask:

• Could a photon (a unit of light) moving through space, be the effect of information exchange?

I believe that's exactly it.

Imagine you have systems changing in time and you want to be able to establish communication between them. In order for one to "see" or know of the state of the other, information regarding changes in one needs to be communicated to other and this could be bi-directional (we already have the implicit assumption that units of time between them are already compatible or there would be no comparison possible).

So let's say that one system can transition at some time to one of 3 possible states and it sends this information to the other system. The other system needs to have a manner to also represent 1 of 3 possible states. If it can only change to one of 2 possible states, then it can't model the changes in the other precisely and we either have no interaction (transparent space) or the possibility of a compressed representation (it could, for example, change to either of the first states, but with 1 chance in 3 "reemit" this mismatch to somewhere else (similar to energy shifts in atomic orbitals, though I don't believe the specific example I gave here is likely, or it might be a special form of interaction and not like a typical atomic bond. In terms of atomic bonding, I believe the energy shift is closer to, for example, taking 1 of 6, factoring out the 1 of 3 component and re-emiting a photon describing the remaining 1 of 2 factor).

An interesting consideration here in the context of the above comments is that a photon may itself not possess a specific wavelength except for the context of the network of possible changes that it is at least interpreted to have arisen from. (For example, if a system undergoing a transition between 2 possible states is seen as emitting a photon representing that 1 of 2 selection "energy", but it is received by something else that interprets it to be a transition between 1 of 3 states, then a mismatch could occur and this could be seen in physical terms similar to an observers motion red or blue shifting the wavelength of light viewed - the observers context could be determining factor ... a photon is fundamentally discrete and doesn't need to possess any inherent wavelength beyond whatever spacial context/network it was detected within (subjectivity at work again).

• Could the rate of information exchange at a space co-ordinate (this is how I perceive time) be represented by (an holographic?) 'construction' developing at a specific site?

Let me know if I'm incoherent...

Very very close, though I believe we need to treat this information as a specific integer (which can be factored into a prime spectrum) in order to match properties of change between both the emitter and detector. Energy then becomes discretely quantized and potentially "multidimensional" instead of deriving irrational (non)real numbers.

It appears we're also interpreting information as a property inherent in the network (or "construction") of an object/system. It's interesting to consider a possible correlation between forms and energies as well. Forms that are asymmetrical would likely be capable of providing larger quantity of unique or distinct orientation or positions of detections compared to a symmetrical array in which information with that symmetrical space could appear superimposed with a large decrease of specific information content (for example, saying that a checker piece is on a specific color square does little to determine its position, whereas in a highly diverse environment, it only takes a small number of landmarks to localize a position well ... those are just some side thoughts that could be worth trying to tie in).

I put up a few posts here that could help give you a better idea of how this fits in with the discrete string ideas I've been working on: http://www.toequest.com/forum/metaph...tml#post127702

and http://www.toequest.com/forum/metaph...tml#post127682

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Speaking of bacteria…



(Bacteria: The back door to a cafeteria?)

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