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About LinkBacks'Truth' is just a concept pointing to the undescribable.
Lies can appear in 'what is'...why not?, what is is everything, included lies.
Every concept is dualistic so every concept has an opposite: Truth/lies, man/woman, etc...
But dualistic concepts can also point to 'that which is not dualistic' (although this again is a dualistic definition)
like the menu can point to the actual meal.
So truth cannot be 'told', because every telling is a conceptualization, and conceptualization is dualistic.
The so-called 'telling of truth' is an appearance in 'Isness', as everything is.
So Truth is...(included true lies).
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Truth Has No Logic.
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Re: Truth Has No Logic.
No Logic Melanie__No Melanie...!!!
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
"The uncertainty principle is an absolute, finite, universal constant." L.G.
"The tick-tick-tick of the caesium atom is a sliding-time-scaler constant of all finite universal motion." L.G.
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Re: Truth Has No Logic.
I've had similar thought regarding truth, though I believe that we could say there are truths - but they can also be arbitrarily assigned. Basically, truths can be created and everything constructed upon those inherits those properties and this creates nested "spaces" with growing complexity, yet more predetermined components to them.
The foundation that can't be seen past is simply the energetic/creative source of experience, which to whatever extent it does have a specific form is one that is continually being revealed - so in an alternate sense we could say that this foundation is seen precisely in the present and it has no nebulous form at all (until we try to contain it to remain as some specific form in the future and then it "escapes" that description).
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Re: Truth Has No Logic.
Truth is relative.
What is true in nature.
What is untrue?
How simple, this unbelievable complexity.
How complex, this unbelievable simplicity.
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Re: Truth Has No Logic.
You are correct Lloyd, the idea that there is a Melanie is just that, 'an idea' arising in This Is-ness.
Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie 
What this Is-ness is is THIS right now appearing as an idea.
What is THIS idea?
No idea?
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Re: Truth Has No Logic.
What is the wisdom of wisdom__ohh...wondrous sage...???
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
"Time and space are modes in which we think and not conditions in which we live." Albert Einstein
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Re: Truth Has No Logic.
In nature, everything is 'true' to itself, or perhaps better said IS TRUTH ITSELF. Originally Posted by melanie Truth is relative.
What is true in nature.
What is untrue?
How simple, this unbelievable complexity.
How complex, this unbelievable simplicity.
It would be our attempts at categorizing and comprehending wherein 'true' and 'untrue' arises.
It has been said that we are the only species for whom our own existence poses a problem, lol,....So many paths to the same destination,
would, but I could, experience them all...
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Re: Truth Has No Logic.
What is the experience of experience...???
"To develop the skill of correct thinking is in the first place to learn what you have to disregard. In order to go on, you have to know what to leave out; this is the essence of effective thinking." Kurt Godel
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Re: Truth Has No Logic.
Silence sounding _oh wondrous student...??? Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie
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Re: Truth Has No Logic.
What is the wisdom of wisdom?
Survived, with a larger database to refer to.
What is the experience of experience?
This presumes one survived, lol......
Choosing which bits are worth redoing, and avoiding others.
This is undoubtedly not where you were headed with this, but hey, it's MY experience and I'll chase it down any trail that looks interesting....
So many paths to the same destination,
would, but I could, experience them all...
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