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If the entropy of your surrounding increases faster than the entropy in your room then it is possible, relatively speaking, in the distant future, your room would be more orderly than the universe.
Yes, but will it be more orderly than itself before?
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but will it be more orderly than itself before?
For this comparison, you need to go back down memory lane in order to make your comparison. This is just like comparing a real number to an imaginary number.
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For this comparison, you need to go back down memory lane in order to make your comparison. This is just like comparing a real number to an imaginary number.
Do yoy mean by this last analoy that it's a meaningless comparison? Anyway, I'm going to use this theory of mine that it will eventually be totally ordered as an excuse, saying that I'm trying to proof my theory, and that she can't stop the progress of science, to my mother, so I don't have to clean my bedroom...lol
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Do yoy mean by this last analoy that it's a meaningless comparison?
Physically meaningless since it is still impossible to go backward in time and decrease entropy.
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Physically meaningless since it is still impossible to go backward in time and decrease entropy.
I see now. But can I compare the room of today with the room of tomorrow? If I achieve a sufficiently big acceleration, so that when I see my room now the image is stil coming from my eye into my mind, and sudenyl go so fast that it's tomorrow, I woudl be able to compare perfectly, right?

Or what if we create perfect virtual universes? I mean, two universes with every single atom equal, but one is a day a head of the other. I would be able to compare my bedrooms correctly? Also, we would be able to see that if the outcome in both universes is always equal in the same events, then the universe is not probabilistic as QM says.
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If I achieve a sufficiently big acceleration...Or what if we create perfect virtual universes?
It is more cost effective to ask the opinion of a cleaning lady. Here in Dallas Texas, you can get one for the cost of maybe $10 and she can make your room as clean as you expect and she will never question about the increase in entropy while you can compare the state of your room by the the amount she asked for cleaning it, say a $1 per degree increase in entropy.
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