ToeQuest

We're going on a TOE Quest!


Register

Reply

Raider of the lost time

AntonioLao's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,036
Blog Entries: 6
86 AntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to behold
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
05-22-2006, 02:59 PM
relativistic and Lie groups

The following list of web links contains topics discussing the different varieties of group used in the formulation of physical theories:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lie_groups and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_group and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poincare_group

The question is which of these could describe the topologies of the following image?

Attachment 248

__________________
Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²

Last edited by AntonioLao; 01-14-2008 at 04:27 PM.
Reply With Quote
AntonioLao is offlineReport Post
The Thinker

Guille's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,278
Blog Entries: 7
48 Guille is a jewel in the rough
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
05-22-2006, 04:41 PM
Re: relativistic and Lie groups

What if the topology which should describe those images is not yet invented? What characteristics should it have?
Reply With Quote
Guille is offlineReport Post
Raider of the lost time

AntonioLao's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,036
Blog Entries: 6
86 AntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to behold
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
05-23-2006, 01:01 PM
Re: relativistic and Lie groups

Quote:
Originally Posted by GUILLE
What if the topology which should describe those images is not yet invented?
The topology is known as a doubly twisted Möbius strip. I am still not sure about the Lie group representations although I used Hadamard matrices and these form a Hadamard group which are not differentiable or meaning not one to one correspondence but many to many correspondence.
__________________
Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²
Reply With Quote
AntonioLao is offlineReport Post
The Thinker

Guille's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,278
Blog Entries: 7
48 Guille is a jewel in the rough
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
05-23-2006, 05:48 PM
Re: relativistic and Lie groups

Quote:
Originally Posted by AntonioLao
The topology is known as a doubly twisted Möbius strip. I am still not sure about the Lie group representations although I used Hadamard matrices and these form a Hadamard group which are not differentiable or meaning not one to one correspondence but many to many correspondence.
Many to many correspondence is seen a lot in permutation mathematics. Do you have an equation of the sort 2n! or something to represent that many to many correspondence?
Reply With Quote
Guille is offlineReport Post
Raider of the lost time

AntonioLao's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,036
Blog Entries: 6
86 AntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to behold
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
05-25-2006, 06:34 PM
Re: relativistic and Lie groups

Quote:
Originally Posted by GUILLE
Do you have an equation of the sort 2n! or something to represent that many to many correspondence?
No. I don't have any such equation. But I think many to many correspondence must in some ways related to non-associative algebra.
__________________
Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²
Reply With Quote
AntonioLao is offlineReport Post
Raider of the lost time

AntonioLao's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,036
Blog Entries: 6
86 AntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to beholdAntonioLao is a splendid one to behold
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit!
Quote  
05-25-2006, 07:47 PM
Re: relativistic and Lie groups

The following is an information link to non-associative algebra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...iative_algebra
__________________
Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²
Reply With Quote
AntonioLao is offlineReport Post
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:07 PM. Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 VBulletin Skin by ForumMonkeys.