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invariance - 05-25-2006, 06:37 PM

Two fundamental invariances are known as Gauss theorem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divergence_theorem and Stokes’ theorem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stokes_theorem. The former is also known as divergence theorem which requires the existence of a closed surface (having an inside and an outside) and the smoothness of its exterior normals and satisfying the property of orientability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientability. Stokes’ theorem requires the existence of a two-sided surface bounded by a smooth closed curve. Since one-sided Möbius bands are not orientable, their implied invariance property asserts that closed surfaces cannot possibly exist in nature therefore totally disqualifying the validity of Gauss theorem and partially crippling Stokes’ theorem.


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What about in supernature or the supernormal.could a closed surface exist there??
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Re: invariance - 01-18-2007, 04:20 PM

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The concept of levels of existence can only allows layering analogous to the layers of onion.


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Smile Re: invariance - 01-18-2007, 05:41 PM

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That implies one layer upon another,what about if you went straight through,piercing
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Re: invariance - 01-21-2007, 09:51 PM

You would have an onion with a quasi-spherical surface. Yet it still has layers as Antonio insists.
  
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Re: invariance - 02-23-2007, 12:28 PM

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one layer upon another,what about if you went straight through,piercing the layer,much like a spear or dart stabbing through.
I hope a new thread on virtual screening would clarify your description.


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Re: invariance - 02-26-2007, 01:08 PM

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look forward to reading it.
This is the link to that post
http://www.toequest.com/forum/genera...screening.html


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Thanks for the link,have posted there as well.


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