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05-14-2007, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie just how does one witness relativistic mass increase | At the linear accelerator level, say Stanford Linear Accelerator. http://www.slac.stanford.edu/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_mass
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05-14-2007, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AntonioLao  | There is a new one being built Antonio,in Switzerland I believe,it will be the biggest
accelerator on the planet,personally I think it an absolute waste of money,but what the
hell!
regards michael.
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05-16-2007, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AntonioLao | Yes Antonio, I'm well aware of these experiments, however; I do not accept their specific interpretations of the results. I and many others say, there is no way to tell if the imaging results are of the phenomena accelerated, or of the target, itself. I think these high velocity experiments pose, and create, more problems than they solve, as will the new Hadron collider, when it's finished, later this year. I may be wrong, but time will tell... I still say the true mass interpretations, are dead wrong...  Mass and fundamental substance is much deeper than where standard physics, has thus far ventured...
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05-16-2007, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie Mass and fundamental substance is much deeper than where standard physics, has thus far ventured... | What about the other aspect of special relativity concerning slowing down time but is there not such a thing as accelerating time?
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05-16-2007, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AntonioLao What about the other aspect of special relativity concerning slowing down time but is there not such a thing as accelerating time? | Antonio, if you believe that strongly in pseudo-time, you better start looking under your pillow, for all the money/millions the Tooth-Fairy left you...
Time does not slow down, or speed up___That's stupid... It's just the measure of matter in motion___That's it... It just Is!!!
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05-21-2007, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie if you believe that strongly in pseudo-time | The indisputable accuracy of Lorentz transformations for two distantly separated observers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_transformation
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05-22-2007, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AntonioLao | Antonio, please don't depend entirely on wikipedia's accuracy for information. Often, it's like listening to Frick and Frack. Most of the colleges across America, have dis-allowed its students to source it...
If you go back in history, to Lorentz's original thesis and math, he and Einstein both realized the ideas and math broke down, at velocities very near C. This is why we have his original math only figured to 95% C. Also, these very facts, require QM's renormalization mathematical fiasco...
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05-29-2007, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie please don't depend entirely on wikipedia's accuracy for information | For accuracy I do consult the original literatures found in Physical Reviews and other authoritative journals.
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05-31-2007, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie That makes absolutely no sense Anthony, because kinetic energy requires motion to have energy___If it has motion, it has mass___Where is it? I say the photon is thus required, to have real potential and kinetic mass___There is no other answer. So you see, physics is still lost in this simple mass gap dilemma.
Lloyd | It only makes sense when you stop your heckling and figure out for youself there are a million ways to say what Antonio has just told us plainly. | | | | | |
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