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Re: quark soup no gluon - 11-16-2007, 04:24 PM

Thank you;

I thought maybe it was the one for a circle which is an exponential equation of course, but I had no idea as to how to combine a formula for 3 circles intertwined.

I think both you and AntonioLao are the two best mathematicians on the block.

We ( the 3 of us ) can even do a paper on the Idea, if you think it's worth the effort.

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Re: quark soup no gluon - 11-16-2007, 04:35 PM

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Thank you;

I thought maybe it was the one for a circle which is an exponential equation of course, but I had no idea as to how to combine a formula for 3 circles intertwined.

I think both you and AntonioLao are the two best mathematicians on the block.

We ( the 3 of us ) can even do a paper on the Idea, if you think it's worth the effort.

Best to all,

Pat
You're welcome, and thanks for the compliment! At the moment, I can't see how to progress your idea mathematically. I'll continue to have a think, and more of a read of it though, when time permits.


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Re: quark soup no gluon - 11-16-2007, 04:43 PM

No rush it's been in my brain for 30 years with periodic improvements throughout. But I do realize in its present state it's not going anywhere except, at this forum.

Needless to say my credentials aren't adequate for this type of Idea to be taken seriously by the academic community without some additional support.

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Re: quark soup no gluon - 11-19-2007, 12:06 PM

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what the formula was for a Venn Diagram
In addition, the diagram is useful only if you have a clear distinction of the sets involved. The Venn diagrams of all empty sets is simply the universal set and if a barber only shave those people who do not shave themselves then who shave the barber?


Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²
  
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Re: quark soup no gluon - 11-19-2007, 02:11 PM

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In addition, the diagram is useful only if you have a clear distinction of the sets involved. The Venn diagrams of all empty sets is simply the universal set and if a barber only shave those people who do not shave themselves then who shave the barber?
I believe my universal set would be the negative space. Akin to the 1st image before the introduction to my IDEA. All the sets within the Venn Diagram are marked, by color, I Ching Trigram etc.

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Re: quark soup no gluon - 11-20-2007, 11:59 AM

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my universal set would be the negative space
This is the same as hyperbolic space in general relativity where and when the space-time curvature is negative. To reach it requires superluminal speed.


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This is the same as hyperbolic space in general relativity where and when the space-time curvature is negative. To reach it requires superluminal speed.
OK I didn't know that. How about just plain old regular space?

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How about just plain old regular space?
That would be Euclidean 4-spacetime but then the curvatures would be zeros. A theory with zero curvature cannot describe the perihelion anomaly of planet Mercury, the bending of starlight, gravity lensing, and Doppler effects of gravity.


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Re: quark soup no gluon - 11-26-2007, 12:31 PM

OK now I'm really confused. Lets start over. You saw my Venn Diagram with the 7 identified areas. What would you call the universal set? The set outside the neutron sphere.

I'd appreciate any help on this one Antonio.

My idea speculates that the electron are point particles anywhere in space. Is it possible for my described domed proton to project a beam ( ripple or field ) in space?

If you could keep your answer so a 7th grader could understand I would be most thankful.

Very best,

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P.S. Again I'm not looking for confimation, because that would be impossible at this point. Only is it possible
  
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Re: quark soup no gluon - 11-26-2007, 01:05 PM

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The quantum vacuum is now agreed by high energy physics as the universal set. Its existence was experimentally verified by the Casimir Effect.
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My idea speculates that the electron are point particles anywhere in space. Is it possible for my described domed proton to project a beam ( ripple or field ) in space?
Most theorists agree that in formulating a theory Occam's razor is necessary. Your descriptions are more complicated than the ones found in QED and QCD. If you take the electrons as point particles then you always get infinity. However, QED uses renormalization to get them out of their perturbation theory. On the other hand, the infinity in QCD, at first, could not be taken out until Gerard 't Hooft used asymptotic freedom and renormalization techniques. All these people received Nobel Prizes for their works.


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