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03-08-2008, 02:43 PM
Re: double-handle bundle hurdle riddle

No Michael;

I'm still trying to get a handle on this situation so I can hurdle the mystery.

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Too many squares of energy needs rounding off
This is already done topologically. The plane figures of squares and circle or even ellipses and ovals, etc. are all topologically equivalent. They can be distorted and transformed into each other.
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Why squares or cubes of energy, why not circles or spheres
it was proven in 1995 by Wiles that Fermat's last theorem only possible for squares. He actually resolved a problem that is over 2000 years old. Ancient geometers were trying to square a circle or trisect an angle.
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This is already done topologically. The plane figures of squares and circle or even ellipses and ovals, etc. are all topologically equivalent. They can be distorted and transformed into each other.

it was proven in 1995 by Wiles that Fermat's last theorem only possible for squares. He actually resolved a problem that is over 2000 years old. Ancient geometers were trying to square a circle or trisect an angle.

Its the angle of dangle that we have to untangle before we can wrangle the fact of the
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the fact of the bangle.
As it is said too many cooks in the kitchen spoil the broth. But in theoretical physics, the bungle is the acceptance that matter and energy cannot be both waves and particles. A quantum field is both like a lioness with testicles.
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As it is said too many cooks in the kitchen spoil the broth. But in theoretical physics, the bungle is the acceptance that matter and energy cannot be both waves and particles. A quantum field is both like a lioness with testicles.

It would be far simpler to say that energy and matter are really just consciousness in
varying vibrational modes,that wayt here would be no need for a bundle,we would have
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energy and matter are really just consciousness in varying vibrational modes
For every vibration there is a crest and there is a trough or a left and a right or a front and a back or a top and a bottom. That I think even consciousness needed these directional invariance properties.
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For every vibration there is a crest and there is a trough or a left and a right or a front and a back or a top and a bottom. That I think even consciousness needed these directional invariance properties.

Indeed waves and crests,but of consciousness.



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Indeed waves and crests,but of consciousness.
Would the good consciousness be the crest and the bad consciousness be the trough?
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Would the good consciousness be the crest and the bad consciousness be the trough?

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