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08-28-2008, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by baudrunner Of course gravity acts at the atomic scale. How many times must it be told?
Please read the following: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/p...04/public.html
Gravity is explained as being extremely weak at the subatomic scale, but very strong for large masses. " The three interactions that govern the microcosmos are all much stronger than gravity and have been unified through the Standard Model." The Standard Model works, ".. it is the only mathematical description which takes into account both Einstein’s theory of relativity and quantum mechanics". What you are attempting to explain has already been explained, vacuum. | Dear baudrunner and friends, It seems that you are “misled” by the explanation in the Nobelprize.org. If you read it carefully, you would found that it does not say that “gravity” is a part of standard model. Instead, it only says that “gravity” is one of the four forces of nature! Actually, the meaning of “Einstein’s theory of relativity” (in the explanation which you quoted) is that “mass- energy relation” of “special” theory of relativity. It does not mean “gravity” in “general” theory of relativity! By the way, it is quite well known that “standard model” does not include “gravity”. We can see this in any textbook about “the theory of everything”, for example, in Wikipedia. The most obvious is the textbook about “standard model”, named “The theory of almost everything” by Robert Oerter! Sincerely | | | | 8th degree Black Belt
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08-28-2008, 07:27 AM
| | Re: gravity not explained Hi Vacuum, is there a way you think gravity can be deduced from electromagnetism or vice versa? Quote:
Originally Posted by vacuum-mechanics Dear baudrunner and friends, It seems that you are “misled” by the explanation in the Nobelprize.org. If you read it carefully, you would found that it does not say that “gravity” is a part of standard model. Instead, it only says that “gravity” is one of the four forces of nature! Actually, the meaning of “Einstein’s theory of relativity” (in the explanation which you quoted) is that “mass- energy relation” of “special” theory of relativity. It does not mean “gravity” in “general” theory of relativity! By the way, it is quite well known that “standard model” does not include “gravity”. We can see this in any textbook about “the theory of everything”, for example, in Wikipedia. The most obvious is the textbook about “standard model”, named “The theory of almost everything” by Robert Oerter! Sincerely | | | | | Green Belt Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 61
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09-01-2008, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dipayankar Hi Vacuum, is there a way you think gravity can be deduced from electromagnetism or vice versa? | Dear dipayankar and friends, Indeed we can show that electromagnetism could be deduced from gravity under the new concept of “vacuum medium space”! Vacuum medium space is neither empty vacuum space nor the space that filled with the old aether. Instead, it is a real physical space of the primordial substance (called vacuum medium) forming to be the fabric structure of our universe! Actually the familiar gravity (which was defined as the attract force between masses) was subjected to the problem of “why and how masses attract each other”? Armed with the concept of “vacuum medium” then it is easy to explain “why and how masses attract each other”! It is because gravity is the intrinsic property of vacuum medium which act as the transmitting medium for gravitation force, and all material masses is composing of large numbers of “condense of vacuum medium” so it also has gravity property. It is well known that electric force is much more stronger than gravity, but why? This problem was easy to solve using the concept that electron and proton (the only two elementary charged particles) are two sizes of “tiny black holes” of the “condense of vacuum medium”! When an electron is moving, it will rotate while dragging and creating internal stress in the surrounding vacuum medium which is then manifest as magnetic field force! By the way, someone may doubt about the repulsion between “same types of charge particles”! Actually any size of charge particles (tiny black holes) would attract each other, but due to its different size and the existing of vacuum medium in between, then at a “certain distance” the attract force (of the same size particles) will be counter by the tensile force (of the vacuum medium in between). So the resultant force was manifest as the repulsion between “same sizes” of the charge particles not “same types” one, as we understood! Sincerely | | | | 8th degree Black Belt
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09-01-2008, 08:04 AM
| | Re: gravity not explained So we have deduced EML from gravity. That brings us one step closer to the ToE... Quote:
Originally Posted by vacuum-mechanics Dear dipayankar and friends, Indeed we can show that electromagnetism could be deduced from gravity under the new concept of “vacuum medium space”! Vacuum medium space is neither empty vacuum space nor the space that filled with the old aether. Instead, it is a real physical space of the primordial substance (called vacuum medium) forming to be the fabric structure of our universe! Actually the familiar gravity (which was defined as the attract force between masses) was subjected to the problem of “why and how masses attract each other”? Armed with the concept of “vacuum medium” then it is easy to explain “why and how masses attract each other”! It is because gravity is the intrinsic property of vacuum medium which act as the transmitting medium for gravitation force, and all material masses is composing of large numbers of “condense of vacuum medium” so it also has gravity property. It is well known that electric force is much more stronger than gravity, but why? This problem was easy to solve using the concept that electron and proton (the only two elementary charged particles) are two sizes of “tiny black holes” of the “condense of vacuum medium”! When an electron is moving, it will rotate while dragging and creating internal stress in the surrounding vacuum medium which is then manifest as magnetic field force! By the way, someone may doubt about the repulsion between “same types of charge particles”! Actually any size of charge particles (tiny black holes) would attract each other, but due to its different size and the existing of vacuum medium in between, then at a “certain distance” the attract force (of the same size particles) will be counter by the tensile force (of the vacuum medium in between). So the resultant force was manifest as the repulsion between “same sizes” of the charge particles not “same types” one, as we understood! Sincerely | | | | | Raider of the lost time
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09-18-2008, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dipayankar That brings us one step closer to the ToE... | In papers especially ones concentrated subjectively the ToE is a forgone conclusion. But objectively for the construction of a cold fusion reactor, its ToE does not exist.
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09-19-2008, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AntonioLao In papers especially ones concentrated subjectively the ToE is a forgone conclusion. But objectively for the construction of a cold fusion reactor, its ToE does not exist. | Dear AntonioLao and friends, It is interesting! Unfortunately I have no information about “the construction of a cold fusion reactor which point out that TOE does not exist”, would you please give more detail? Sincerely | | | | Raider of the lost time
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09-19-2008, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vacuum-mechanics which point out that TOE does not exist | On the contrary, a successful cold fusion reactor will point out that a TOE exists. See thread on dim dimer diminish
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09-20-2008, 02:41 AM
| | Re: gravity not explained Probably we have to redefine what we are looking at uncovering when we say we 'want a ToE' Quote:
Originally Posted by AntonioLao In papers especially ones concentrated subjectively the ToE is a forgone conclusion. But objectively for the construction of a cold fusion reactor, its ToE does not exist. | | | | | Raider of the lost time
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09-20-2008, 02:14 PM
| | Re: gravity not explained For me, the road to theTOE passed thru the bridge of cold fusion reactor.
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09-22-2008, 04:09 AM
| | Re: gravity not explained How would a cold fusion reactor amalgamate the forces of gravity with the quantum? Quote:
Originally Posted by AntonioLao For me, the road to theTOE passed thru the bridge of cold fusion reactor. | | | | |  | | |
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