Subjective time has no direction?

[AntonioLao]

Since Maxwell’s classical time-dependent equations of electromagnetism is perfectly symmetric minus the symmetry of magnetic monopole, objective time, in a phenomenological sense of statistical averages still has no detectable physical direction except for the concept of entropy.

It is also interesting to note that entropy is intimately related to temperature as a property of heat energy. However, heat energy is connected to the quantum-particle nature while electromagnetic energy is connected to the continuum-field nature of physical reality. Wherever and whenever particle and field interact, the result is the quantum field energy of radiation with both temperature and direction attributes. There is a sharp distinction. Temperature is an intensive quantity, meaning its values at different space-time locations cannot be added. On the other hand, direction is a topological extensive quantity in direct proportion to the size of the system. Examples of extensive quantities are total volume, total mass, and total energy of a system. All these are additive not addictive which is subjective as is the nature of incomplete or partial reality of physical matter and energy. In the meantime, the objective nature of physical reality remains exclusively with the complete and fully operational directional invariance of the absolute vacuum of squares of quantized energy. The fundamental physical distinction is that time is truly intensive while space is truly extensive. The apparent metric (measurable) property of time is really based on the differential interval (Lagrangian formalism) which is truly subtractive not integral additive (Hamiltonian formalism), although the fundamental theorem of calculus already made the absolutely precise connection between derivative and antiderivative, between differentiation and integration.

[bottomlander]

AntonioLao, in your opinion, Time is subjective (itself, Newtonian time) or objective (measures the changes of others, Leibnizian time)?

Are you suggesting that if Time is subjective, it decides its own direction, therefore, no fixed direction/arrow of time?


Best Regards. Bottomlander

[AntonioLao]

Are you suggesting that if Time is subjective

I seem to be answering a question by another question. The question mark at the end of the title indicates that I made no suggestion. We agree that there are two time concepts: objective and subjective. So far, scientific observations failed to detect the direction of both except for the direction of entropy which is related to temperature.

[Farsight]

Count to ten: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 →

The "direction" of time has as much reality as the direction of your counting. It is totally abstract. Time in only a measure of motion. The real direction is through space, not through time.

Entropy is something of a red herring here. Whilst some might wax lyrical about QM states, in truth entropy is merely a measure of "sameness". It's another abstraction. There simply is no arrow of time. Yet again it's an abstraction. Things move through space. Time is only a dimension in the sense of measure, not in the sense of freedom of motion.

[AntonioLao]

Entropy is something of a red herring here.

The aging process is equivalent to increasing entropy and it is also entropy that prevented the construction of a perpetual motion machine.

[Farsight]

It's an abstraction. It's just sameness. A smoothing, an averaging, a lack of difference. It isn't something real, just a term applied to a collection or system of real things.

And for a bonus ball: the entropy of the early universe decreased.

[AntonioLao]

Experiments found no abstraction about the thermodynamics of cooking unless you prefer eating the air and even that you actually breathe in some of the oxygen molecules.

[mkirkpatrick]

A little take on time,which is subjective I suppose!

Thought
In/Is
Motion
Emitting=TIME.

Good thread starter this.




regards michael.

[AntonioLao]

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