a constant in a feedback system.

[everymansmedium]

Hello:
Tell me about the action of even the most infinitesimal of constants when in a feedback system.


Is life a feedback system???



I can back up no further than this. If I get silence, I go elsewhere, where people can see what is before their very eyes.
Do not let your fear chase you from the truth.

John EMM

[Mohan.C]

what's a feedback system?

[everymansmedium]

what's a feedback system?

Any equation where the answer becomes one of the factors.

[Mohan.C]

Like in an Op-amp.

Is life a feedback system???

In a feedback system the feedback actually influences the input i.e if I remember correctly.

Life is a flow with time, the effect cannot go back and affect the cause, it causes a new cause, if that makes any sense.

[everymansmedium]

Any equation where the answer becomes one of the factors.

Hello Mohan:
Keeping it simple is the bast way to see.
When a bird makes a decision what its actions are going to be, wouldn't you agree that the factors of the environment must be one of the factors of this decision? Then when it builds a nest, has it changed the environment? Does not this change to the environment have an effect on any following calculations? if you answer yes to these 3 questions then: "This is a feedback system."

Then life is a feedback system. Like an amplifier when you continue to increase the amplification factor, it will eventually oscillate. The reason for this oscillation is the natural resonant frequency of the system. The resonant frequency is a constant and is recognizable as a character simply for the reason that it does not change so that it will be the same next time you encounter it this is what results in recognition. If you amplify everything you will eventually find things that you will recognize. Any recognizable item must be a constant for if it was changing then it would never be recognized. The infinite amplifier then will find the characters that come to the surface as the overall system is amplified.

If we did not know of life but for the fact that it is a feedback system with a constant of continue. then we could predict the effects of life to be cumulative so as to make them to be the most dormant observations of the environment because of this commutation of the constants that are found in life.

This is indeed the case, for when we open our eyes to look at our world all that is within our vision is the effects of life’s constants. The sky is blue because of the atmosphere that is controlled by life. The ground is decomposed biological material. All things made by man is the effect of life. all things living. The only thing that is not yet altered by life is the nighttime sky. The environment is almost 100% effected by life. AS would be expected by a feedback system.

All constants remain unchanged and are recognizable because of this. This recognizable character causes them to continue. The constant continue itself is the constant of constancy, for it is this extension in time of this recognizable character itself that is the basis of continue, and the basis of all constancy.
John

[AntonioLao]

Isn't feedback a subdiscipline of control theory? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_theory. Moreover, there is positive as well as negative feedback. Controlling the steering wheel while driving a car is part of a feedback mechanism keeping the car on the road.

[everymansmedium]

Isn't feedback a subdiscipline of control theory? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_theory. Moreover, there is positive as well as negative feedback. Controlling the steering wheel while driving a car is part of a feedback mechanism keeping the car on the road.

Hello Antonio:
Yes the control theory will describe how feedback effects the overall system. The concept is used to control many things. almost everything that is controlled is in a feedback loop of one kind or another. What is important is what happens to a constant when in a free running infinite amplifier. It takes over the system. because it is the only recognizable thing to be amplified. All else is white noise. So typically in a hardware system it is the resonant frequency of the system is the first constant to be found by the process of amplification and so controls the system to become an oscillator that runs at the resonant frequency of the system. The first constant that was found controls the system.

Yes everything we do in life is a feedback loop. Even a thought if you remember it. The remembrance is the constancy
The infinite amplifier. All the constants come to the surface to be recognized. All that is not constant is nothing but white noise. Continue is the constant of constancy. The reason that we recognize a constant is because it remained the same so that it could be recognized. The reason that we have recognized it to be so is because it continues, if it continues it is a constant. All constants must continue. Continue then is the constant of all constancy.

Thank you for asking the question that brought this out of me. This is definitely a battle of words.
I hope that I am no longer the only one to see this now.

We may now both believe that what is extinct is not gone forever as given the opportunity it will repeat over and over again for the constants that are contained in life have not changed. We are the constants that have come to the surface in the control feedback system. If life is started anywhere in this universe by our hand to begin its own evolvement. It will begin as it did here. The dinosaurs will return. As they did return here as well.
With that last line I simply am playing the odds.

John

Yes everything we do in life is a feedback loop. Even a thought if you remember it. The remembrance is the constancy
The infinite amplifier. All the constants come to the surface to be recognized. All that is not constant is nothing but white noise. Continue is the constant of constancy. The reason that we recognize a constant is because it remained the same so that it could be recognized. The reason that we have recognized it to be so is because it continues, if it continues it is a constant. All constants must continue. Continue then is the constant of all constancy.

Thank you for asking the question that brought this out of me. This is definitely a battle of words.
I hope that I am no longer the only one to see this now.
John

[everymansmedium]

How much of life is feedback?
Almost all. When a leave falls from a tree it is to become nutrition for the next year. This much feedback indicates to me that there is a function that is like the theoretical infinite amplifier. The majority must then be oscillation as a result of the constants that are found. This is the basis of the butterfly wing effect except that it is not the flap of a butterfly wing it is the microscopic effect of any hidden constant as it comes to the surface to begin its oscillation to control the system. Another difference is that it functions so as to allow more than one constant to oscillate at any given time. There are oscillations that follow constants that come from the environment. The day and the year are things that life has not reached out to change as yet. But then life is far being done at this point. I wonder why the design of life results within a control theory. It is to be controlled? Was it controlled? Is it expected to be controlled? Is it just to find the constants?
Maybe it is simply that we call this function by which life exists "The control theory" Just thoughts to ponder from close to home or maybe way out yonder.
John

[Mohan.C]

And is that amplification evolution?

The day and the year are things that life has not reached out to change as yet. But then life is far being done at this point. I wonder why the design of life results within a control theory. It is to be controlled? Was it controlled? Is it expected to be controlled? Is it just to find the constants?

It is controlled because it has constraints....

??????

[Mohan.C]

If all things happening affect everything else around it, then the movement of planets affects our life, that is astrology, and it is according to me meaningless.
Although, I'm starting to wonder if it could be true, not because of this post. But, everything in the universe does affect everything else around it, then why can't the movement of planets affect the life as we see it, I don't believe in astrology, I'm just wondering.
No need to answer to this post if the post has no relevance.