impossible values for energy

[AntonioLao]

Lloyd, again thanks for all these valuable information. As it stands today the mystery of mass remains unresolved. Although many hope it can be resolved by the discovery of the massive God's particle as coined by Lederman for the scalar spin zero Higgs boson, the equivalently important discovery would be the massless graviton. Both are needed to resolve the lingering mystery of mass. As I see it the problem can be traced to Newton's original definition of mass as the product of density and volume. If I redefine volume as directional properties using vector analysis then a much simpler concept of mass emerged as the nonequilibrium configuration of directions while zero mass means dynamic equilibrium of directions.

[AntonioLao]

the evidence points to there being a missing form of energy

This evidence came from astrophysical observations for the mass density of the entire observable universe being less than unity and cannot fit a Riemannian ellptic closed universe which suggests that a hyperbolic non-Euclidean universe would expand forever made worst by recent discovery of accelerated expansion.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Higgs Field - Is the Universe Itself the Missing God Particle ? - Field Theory Physics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdDoMn6DZPU&feature=related

Supermassive Black Hole in the Milky Way Galaxy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCADH...eature=related

The Largest Black Holes in the Universe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW7BvabYnn8&feature=channel

[AntonioLao]

There is a simple explanation for the existence or non-existence of the Higgs field using the properties of directional invariance. This also gives a plausible assertion why the Higgs field cannot be detected.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Antonio, imo, mathematics can never be used to prove or disprove physical reality__only actual experiments and absolute logic can... Absolute logic finds the necessity of some sort of Higgs' Field, otherwise known as the Aether, or FS-EM-Field... Math can only assist in the accurizing of the theories and facts__though it does take all three for sound proofs...

[AntonioLao]

Lloyd, thanks again. Nonetheless, I don't subscribe to a single field that rules all other fields. Rather I am holding on to the notion that two basic entities of the spacetime continuum the H-pluses and the H-minuses work together to create all the fields which include matter fields and energy fields as well as all the possible vacuum fields.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Lloyd, thanks again. Nonetheless, I don't subscribe to a single field that rules all other fields. Rather I am holding on to the notion that two basic entities of the spacetime continuum the H-pluses and the H-minuses work together to create all the fields which include matter fields and energy fields as well as all the possible vacuum fields.

Antonio, you sure do misinterpret what's stated. I didn't state anything about a single field ruling all other fields. It's just all a quantum chaos, which forms into particles. And as to what you state, what's the difference about a spacetime continuum and an aether field...? You seem to believe in some sort of creation of fields, and I do not. In order for a Universe to be eternal, it must eternally have a fundamental field... Any type of absolute creation process requires an impossible infinite regress of any possible logic, thus not possible...

All three elements of math, logic and experiment must align, to be true, or even worth considering...

I still really can't follow your charge math, because you don't link it to a fundamental substance mechanics I can understand... It just seems to be math in a box, but I don't even see the box...

If you wrote with your math connected to some fundamental link, to a real physical motion model, then maybe I could follow it... You just seem to be describing from a standpoint of nowhere...

Btw, I just noticed you used a spacetime continuum above, before your charges created one__a logical impossibility... And what may I ask caused the two basic entities' charges, if no fundamental field existed...?

[Bogie]

Antonio, imo, mathematics can never be used to prove or disprove physical reality__only actual experiments and absolute logic can... Absolute logic finds the necessity of some sort of Higgs' Field, otherwise known as the Aether, or FS-EM-Field... Math can only assist in the accurizing of the theories and facts__though it does take all three for sound proofs...

I agree with the part of your conclusions that maths cannot prove a physical reality and on the evidence pointing to some missing understanding or some as yet undiscovered physical fact.

Lloyd, thanks again. Nonetheless, I don't subscribe to a single field that rules all other fields. Rather I am holding on to the notion that two basic entities of the spacetime continuum the H-pluses and the H-minuses work together to create all the fields which include matter fields and energy fields as well as all the possible vacuum fields.

I agree with the methodology to explore the unobservable physical world with mathematical tools but I would weigh the personal investment in time and education with the likely hood of successfully deriving reality from math. If you have the required mathematical where-with-all and the broad understanding of theoretical physics then have at it .

[AntonioLao]

What I'm subscribing is a more comprehensive quantum field than those pointed out by the late Heinz R. Pagels in his popularized book called "Perfect Symmetry: The Search for the Beginning of Time." Please note that quantum field theories are the best we have for the unification of quantum mechanics and general relativity. Sadly, complete unification is still not possible.

[Bogie]

Well said!