Alchemy the ancient lost art-science.

[mkirkpatrick]

I would like to present this thread as a possible platform of disscussion.What is
alchemy!The origins of the discipline of alchemy date back to ancient Egypt,
andwas to be found in all countries across the world,there were many involved
in the science,in China,India,and ofcourse Europe.The basic premise was much
the same,which was,"The great work of alchemy isto speed up this natural
process of perfection,and resurrect the spiritual essence of man,that has become trapped in matter".
Alchemy is the study of the transformative processes involved in the perfection
or "Evolution"of matter.These words were written by Richard Rolle de Hampole
1380ad Oxford scholar,writer,visionary,"Quote" Some have declared that it lies
within our choice to gaze continally upon a world of equal,or even greater wonder and beauty.It is said bythese that,that the experiments of the alchemists are,in fact related not to the transmutation of metals,but to the
transmutation of the entire universe,this method,or art,or science,or whatever
we choose to call it,is simply concerned,to restore the delights of the primal
paradise,to enable man,if they will,to inhabit a world of joy and splender.it is
prehaps possible, that there is such anexperiment,and that there are some who have made it."Unquote".
Evolution and Alchemy are one of the same.more later.
kindest regards michael.

[Guille]

Art and science have fallen apart, at a 180º difference. At one of the middle points between them (90º to each) is philosophy, at the other religion/myth/spirituality. This later one takes the bad things from art and the bads thing from science, whiles philosophy is the conjunction of the best of science and the best of art.

With this, one either absolutelly disagree or agree, what is your case?

[mkirkpatrick]

Art and science have fallen apart, at a 180º difference. At one of the middle points between them (90º to each) is philosophy, at the other religion/myth/spirituality. This later one takes the bad things from art and the bads thing from science, whiles philosophy is the conjunction of the best of science and the best of art.

With this, one either absolutelly disagree or agree, what is your case?

I will take philosophy and science.thanks for your input,amigo.

kindest regards michael.

[michellemfry]

Michael, I have asked Robert to add a Chemistry section under which I believe entire sub-forums should be dedicated to Alchemy, Biochemistry, and Physical Chemistry. The time is right and the members are ripe to discuss the topics that Chemistry has to offer. Indeed, Alchemy should top the list and begin the section as it has the most delicious blend of science, art, and history, and something unamed that should be revived and included if everything is to be aquired here.

Join me in encouraging Robert to do just that. Let him know that you would like this to be because he is only considering it at this point.

[TinyTree]

I would like to present this thread as a possible platform of disscussion.What is
alchemy!

Alchemy is the process of moving from element to element on the periodic table. It is known how to do this in the modern day- using fission, they produce new elements (lighter) from old elements (heavier) and they sometimes produce gold.

However, producing gold in this manner is not cost effective, and it is radioactive.

At some point in the future they will be able to perform fusion, and then be able to produce gold at will from lighter elements. I suspect they may already be able to do so, but it would be extremely cost prohibitive.

Therefore alchemy is alive and well, it just costs too much money to perform the magic at this time. In the far future they will probably be able to manufacture gold at will and at a low cost- but what will be the point of it at that time? The gold will lose all value if it can be produced cheaply.

[harmonygirl]

Michael, can you describe the laws of alchemy? You had referred to them in an earlier post, and I'm afraid I don't know much about the subject.

[mkirkpatrick]

Michael, I have asked Robert to add a Chemistry section under which I believe entire sub-forums should be dedicated to Alchemy, Biochemistry, and Physical Chemistry. The time is right and the members are ripe to discuss the topics that Chemistry has to offer. Indeed, Alchemy should top the list and begin the section as it has the most delicious blend of science, art, and history, and something unamed that should be revived and included if everything is to be aquired here.

Join me in encouraging Robert to do just that. Let him know that you would like this to be because he is only considering it at this point.

Thank you
for your very kind suuport,Michelle,I will ask Robert too!

kindest regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

I googled this subject, and have only started reading about it, but it seems to fit squarely in this website. I will also pm Robert and ask that a separate forum be dedicated to its many different aspects.

[mkirkpatrick]

A time will come,in the not too distant future,when the science of alchemy
will be taught in our schools,and universities,these teachings will run in tandem
with evolution,and the history of this planet,the idea that all is alive,that the
universe is self-aware,will also be included in this coming new wave of education
So to will the central idea of alchemy,that of Transformation,this core theme
will play an important part,and will lead to a fuller idea of energy and matter,
and the core "structure of form".
When we begin to fully understand,what we have lost,over these past centuries
we will all become eager to re-discover that lost science?

kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

Michael, from my (very preliminary) reading, the transformative aspect of alchemy didn't stop at the metals. It encompassed solid to liquid and (as you said) uniting humanity with the divine.