[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie Michael, why don't you just avoid me when I'm addressing someone else, because your logic is a joke. Wake up, you can't infer an emotion into logic and extract meaning, tis logically impossible___emotion isn't logic, it's the base of logic___instinct. You must infer real objects into logic for logic to function, logically. Emotions infered into logic simply produce illogical immaginations... regards,

Aw shucks Lloyd I do apoligise,guess I just reacted,you know,all emotional like,
like when you step on crap,you just have to flush it away,I guess reading you reply
on my thread,just made me feel,sort of "unclean"I am sure you will understand
Lloyd,after all you have been peddling the same old crap for for years now,I guess
you have grown used to the stench by now,sort of immune like.


regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Thanks for the compliments, Skunk...

regards,

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Aw shucks Lloyd I do apoligise,guess I just reacted,you know,all emotional like, like when you step on crap,you just have to flush it away,I guess reading you reply on my thread,just made me feel,sort of "unclean"I am sure you will understand Lloyd,after all you have been peddling the same old crap for for years now,I guess you have grown used to the stench by now,sort of immune like. regards michael.

[lodestar]

Graybeard,

I would like to comment on your question about where the energy comes from that causes the universe to expand. The ultimate source of all energy, including the energy which causes the universe to expand, is 1/0. 1/0 is the total amount of energy in existence. So the universe draws from the energy of 1/0 in order to expand. Now the universe keeps expanding faster and faster as it keeps drawing more and more energy. Theoretically the universe will reach a point where it is using all the energy of 1/0 to expand. So in other words dark energy will eventually be 1/0, and when that happens it will cause space time to tear and the arrow of time will reverse.

Incidentally, in the future we will have technology that also draws energy from 1/0 just like the universe does. Then we will have to realize that the laws of thermodynamics are a little short sighted since they do not acknowledge that the true amount of energy is 1/0 and this makes destruction/creation of energy irrelevant since there is already more than an infinite amount of energy in existence for us to play with and use as we see fit. Realizing how to do this will allow us limitless power and capabilities to travel around the universe and beyond. Also it will allow us to be happy and free and destroy the oil companies and all companies and governments so that it will just be all of us mankind united together with nothing left to divide by

[mkirkpatrick]

This here thread seems to be getting popular,everyones dropping in for a chat,is there then some merit in the final analysis,I mean?

Crystallization is really just a process of "clothing the idea" to enable expression and
for the fulfilling of the evolutionary cycle.

As mankind looks deeper into form and energy signatures,it will reveal "intent in motion"!

The diamond is a symbol of a hidden gem,that awaits discovery as yet by science?


regards michael.

[Graybeard]

Lloyd, Lode, Michael .... going away for 2 days to Byron Bay ... back soon to reply ... have printed posts and will think on it...


ta! greg

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Graybeard Lloyd, Lode, Michael .... going away for 2 days to Byron Bay ... back soon to reply ... have printed posts and will think on it... ta! greg

Youare a lucky b,Greg,here it is winter,while away maybe having a tinnie or two,
remember this thread,think on it,let those thoughts crystallize in your brain,then when
you return good buddy,youwill have some interesting things to post here"!

Remember greg you are the end result ofthe crysatallization process,dont that make you
feel proud?

regards michael.

[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by Infinite Consciousness GRAYBEARD, Re the "fact" and its mechanisms; Quantum Physics, has established that materialism is nothing but a profound illusion - a 3d hologram in which there is no actual object - only interference waves of electro-magnetic energy that consciousness brings to life as the physical-material universe. The Materialists Belief, As long as mankind remains arrogant in believing his mind and consciousness is something special to the universe, he is doomed to travel the path of ignorance and eternally blinded to reality. The mind and consciousness are pure physical motions and interaction of matter. It is truly difficult for human beings to accept that they are no more important to the universe than a grain of sand on the beach. Quantum Physics establishes that an objective physical-material universe does not exist - what does exist is an organized body of waves of energy -that consciousness brings to life as the physical-material universe we see. The matter that the materialist believes in does not exist so obviously materialism is an illusion. There is no object. Just an Illusion. The universe to which our consciousness is no more important than a grain of sand does not in fact come into existence without our consciousness. Without our consciousness there is only waves of interference energy no universe. So how important is our consciousness to the universe ? There is nothing more important to the universe then our consciousness because the objective universe per se does not exist without it. THE END OF MATERIALISM ! WAKE - UP !

You best learn Quantum Physics IC, before you quote this kind of nonsense. Quantum Physics does not state or prove anything you have stated here. You are quoting hypothetical fantasies promoted to sell books, not facts.

It is you that should wake up and learn the real facts.

[yogi]

I would request David to look at this article , here is the link
http://www.rense.com/general69/holoff.htm. a commentaory and open discussion on this would have some impact on most of our audience.

sincerely,
yogi

[mkirkpatrick]

Dr Edward R Close phd,Author of Transcendental Physics,The science of consciousness
and matter Interaction.Quote,"In transcendental physics,utilizing a single assumption,
dr Edward R Close presents the elements of a comprehensive science that includes.
matter,energy,time,space and the conscious observer.Transcentdental physics integrates
the search for answers to questions ranging from the mind-body problem,to survival of
consciousness after death,to the frontiers of quantum physics and reativity.
Proceeding from a single assumption,the "inner" world of consciousness and the "outer"
world of physical phenomena can be united,contemplated and explored within one logically consistant system of thought"end quote.

Consiousness is mind,the universal Construct is mind?

That should be crystal clear by now!

regards michael.

[Graybeard]

Originally Posted by yogi I would request David to look at this article , here is the link http://www.rense.com/general69/holoff.htm. a commentaory and open discussion on this would have some impact on most of our audience. sincerely, yogi

Yogi .... checked your link. its very good ... but a lot of it is speculation .... Who is the Author 'Michael Taylor'. The 'Wikpaedia' lists the 'Holographic Principle' as

The holographic principle is a speculative conjecture about quantum gravity theories, proposed by Gerard 't Hooft and improved and promoted by Leonard Susskind, claiming that all of the information contained in a volume of space can be represented by a theory that lives in the boundary of that region

It then describe this as it relates to the surface area of a Black Hole. This is quite different to the essay you quote.??

The authors theory on the human brain using the holograph principle to store and locate memories is radical and enticing. However its not the only way to store non-sequential and loosely related data. Relational databases do exactly the same, using SQL. However, I do admit, that the Holograph Principle would be able to concentrate huge amounts of data in a very small space.

Greg