[mkirkpatrick]

If I am preaching then I apoligise for that and will take immediate steps to eradicate this
slip of the finger,will you do the same my friend?



regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Michael, I'm just trying to get you to investigate self, all, and everyone deeper, to discover the deeper truths uniting and bridging spirit and science. Don't you still agree, it must be done...?

regards,

[mkirkpatrick]

Yes indeed Lloyd,I am all for the deeper truths,the deeper the better I say!

Are you the one who will be bringing them by the way?


regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

If you mine everyone elses head, more than your own, you'll learn more of the deeper truths...

regards,

[mkirkpatrick]

There speaks the voice of experience,thank you Lloyd.

regards michael.

[Infinite Consciousness]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie You're preaching again___the object of discovery of the deeper truths is investigation. Investigate the whole deeper, to find the newest truths. The whole contains more truth, than the self... regards,

Self-knowledge precedes God-knowledge. I and my Father are "One"!

M A N --- K N O W --- T H Y S E L F !!! --- The "self" i.e. the spirit that is Unchangeable Permanence is the Truth of the Whole or the Whole of Truth.

This "spirit" which is Unchangeable Permanence in the human form is a hologram of the "Whole" containing all the information and essence of the "whole" while one is the "microcosm" the other is the "macrocosm" and by reconnecting with the microcosm "within" the human form one is then connected with the macrocosm as One Undivided Infinite Whole. I and my Father are One !

[mkirkpatrick]

Asking ourselves "who am I"?Can guide us in contemplating our true nature,in backtracking through our experience,beyond sensory impressions,beyond emotions,
beyond thoughts and mental images,beyond the energy body,even beyond consciousness,
toward our sourse.The question "who am I"? followed persistently and honestly,brings contact with that in us which decides,which directs our attention,which intends,chooses and
commits.

That is not physical,not a place,not our personality,not an energy and not even our
consciousness.It is our will.It is who we really are.We cannot see our "I,because our I,
when present,is the one who sees,the one who does what we do,the one who thinks,the one who feels,the one who looks for him-or herself,and the only one who can truthfully say "I"That I can direct our attention,effectively choosing what we will be conscious of.
This fact shows that our I is deeper than our consciousness?

regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Very good, Michael... Now, define "I" for what it absolutely truly is... Go beyond can't and cant...

regards,

[mkirkpatrick]

For you Lloyd I would swim the English channel naked!Thank you by the way,for your positive post.

regards michael.

[Infinite Consciousness]

Re: Self Understanding Reveals The Toe. - Yesterday, 11:48 PM
Asking ourselves "who am I"?Can guide us in contemplating our true nature,in backtracking through our experience,beyond sensory impressions,beyond emotions, beyond thoughts and mental images,beyond the energy body,even beyond consciousness, toward our sourse.The question "who am I"? followed persistently and honestly,brings contact with that in us which decides,which directs our attention,which intends,chooses and commits.

That is not physical,not a place,not our personality,not an energy and not even our consciousness.It is our will.It is who we really are.We cannot see our "I,because our I, when present,is the one who sees,the one who does what we do,the one who thinks,the one who feels,the one who looks for him-or herself,and the only one who can truthfully say "I"That I can direct our attention,effectively choosing what we will be conscious of. This fact shows that our I is deeper than our consciousness?

regards michael.

Michael, you say the "I" that you are talking about is "your will" or our will as human beings is that right ? If so can you expand on or define that idea any further ?