[PoPpAScience]

Paradox of Potential popped Aware.

In the beginning there was, "The Paradox of Potential".
Out of this "Paradox of Potential", "Popped Aware".
"Aware" moved inward upon itself, into the "Abyss of Infinity and Eternity".
By the act of "Will", "Aware" stopped, and became "Cognitive" of itself.
From the "Singularity" of "Will", "Aware" "Waved" back upon itself.
"Aware", "Being" all there is, set forth through the "Art of Evolution", to be all it can "Be".

[MJA]

Originally Posted by PoPpAScience Paradox of Potential popped Aware. In the beginning there was, "The Paradox of Potential". Out of this "Paradox of Potential", "Popped Aware". "Aware" moved inward upon itself, into the "Abyss of Infinity and Eternity". By the act of "Will", "Aware" stopped, and became "Cognitive" of itself. From the "Singularity" of "Will", "Aware" "Waved" back upon itself. "Aware", "Being" all there is, set forth through the "Art of Evolution", to be all it can "Be".

I wonder if you would be so kind as to define "the beginning" before I ask any more?

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MJA

[PoPpAScience]

Originally Posted by MJA I wonder if you would be so kind as to define "the beginning" before I ask any more? = MJA

Thks for the reply MJA.

The beginning would be more of a transitional point from there being, a "non-thing", to there being "some-thing". Before there was "some-thing", there was "Potential" and its paradoxical nature of Being both, "Absolute", and "non-something". "Potential" was fulfilled, and "some-thing" popped forth. So, the beginning, is the start of "some-thing". This "some-thing" is "Aware".

[mkirkpatrick]

Good to see you back here PopaScience,the act of will,interests me,as does the thread
theme,would it be possible for you to enlarge on the "will?



regards michael.

[Profpat]

Well PPA I have to admit I'm a bit confused I'm more Aristotlean in my beliefs regarding potentiality, in that there has to be something actual first. Whether it be God, man or matter.

According to Aristotle, actuality is prior to potentiality, in that potentiality can only occur if there is some actually existing thing which is capable of becoming another thing. There must be an actual potentiality for an event to occur if its potentiality is to become an actuality.
Aristotle also says that eternal or imperishable things are prior in substance and in being to perishable things, because eternal things have no beginning or end. Non-eternal or perishable things have a beginning and an end.
Furthermore, essential causes and principles are prior to accidental causes and principles. Events cannot happen accidentally unless there are essential reasons or principles while allow them to happen that way.
Aristotle explains that while physics (or natural science) is concerned with things which are ‘movable’ or ‘changeable,’ metaphysics is concerned with things which are ‘immovable’ or ‘unchangeable.’ Metaphysics is a ‘first philosophy’ in that it is concerned with defining the nature of being, while the other branches of science and philosophy are concerned with defining the classes (genera and species) of being.

So I would require further elucidation regarding this esoteric mattter before I comment further.

Sorry PPA and best to all,

Pat

[PoPpAScience]

For the Record.

I like to say first, that my writing ability is limited. I have written more in the last month, then I have in the 35 years before, combined. I have not worried about my lack of writing before, because I was not ready to express myself or my views. I can write some because I have read a tremendous amount of books. I have always said to myself that when the day comes that I find myself writing freely without fear, that that is the day I am meant to start expressing myself and my views. Well that day came in the last month, and I hope it does not stop. I will answer all questions asked of me. But, it takes time for me to construct my writing, and correct my many spelling and grammar mistakes. But, I will get better with time. So, ahead of time, thanks for your patience.

I fell very strongly about the respect for all past great thinkers. But!! I feel that we have every right and obligation to go further then any one has gone before. Just as over time those of the past came up with new and better ways of looking at the "Aware/Universe/God" we live in. I have deliberately tried to think above and beyond, since I was 7 years old, when I thought on my way to school, "Everything seems to come from something, but the very first thing had to come from nothing." Why I thought this I do not know. But that day is still very vivid in my Mind.

I wish to state that all my views are what I see, "as of this day". I would change any of my view's, in a heart beat, if something came along that made more sense to me. I'm lucky to be one of the freest people on our planet, and wish to make good on this freedom.

[PoPpAScience]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Good to see you back here PopaScience,the act of will,interests me,as does the thread theme,would it be possible for you to enlarge on the "will? regards michael.

Thks for the welcome back Michael, I was glad to see you still here.

"Will" is the first act of "Aware". "Aware" falling into the "Abyss of Eternity and Infinity", fulfilled its inherent "Potential", by stopping the fall, with "Will". "Will", could be looked at like, the first self determination of "Aware". Just as "Potential" fulfilled the only thing it could from "no-thing", to "some-thing". "Aware", fulfilled the only thing that it could from "no-Will", to "some-Will".
At this point, "Aware" is inherent with "Potential", and powered by "Will".

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by PoPpAScience Thks for the welcome back Michael, I was glad to see you still here. "Will" is the first act of "Aware". "Aware" falling into the "Abyss of Eternity and Infinity", fulfilled its inherent "Potential", by stopping the fall, with "Will". "Will", could be looked at like, the first self determination of "Aware". Just as "Potential" fulfilled the only thing it could from "no-thing", to "some-thing". "Aware", fulfilled the only thing that it could from "no-Will", to "some-Will". At this point, "Aware" is inherent with "Potential", and powered by "Will".

Thanks POPpAScience,That "will" then is back of all manifestation-right?



regards michael.

[Profpat]

Hi PPA;

With your clarification allow me to comment further.

First I am a theist. I believe in God and therefore that to some degree limits my beliefs in some theories. As in my Idea I believe that in that nothingness of the void was something namely LIFE and JOY or if you will GOD. And from that came everything. God I believe is eternal, always was always will be. This is where agnostics and atheist goes crazy with my ideas and beliefs, because I can't explain this. I accept it on faith, my own personal belief.

Now once I became Aware ( self awareness I AM ) my Will followed, very likely to protect me from falling into that Abyss of Infinity and Eternity. To me this is God's territory and I would certainly get lost forever.

I also agree that we have every right and yes obligation to use their ( the great thinkers ) thoughts and to expand upon them or even change thoughts to coorespond to your personal belief system, as long as it is consistent, and the new information is relevent and reliable.

Just some of my additional thoughts on your interesting topic.

Best to all,

Pat

[PoPpAScience]

Thanks Pat for your reply, sorry for taking long on the response.

Originally Posted by Profpat Well PPA I have to admit I'm a bit confused I'm more Aristotlean in my beliefs regarding potentiality, in that there has to be something actual first. Whether it be God, man or matter.

According to Aristotle, actuality is prior to potentiality, in that potentiality can only occur if there is some actually existing thing which is capable of becoming another thing. There must be an actual potentiality for an event to occur if its potentiality is to become an actuality.

Nice, Aristotle explaining the "Paradox of Potential". If "Potential" has the duel nature of being both "Absolute" (actuality) , and "non-something", can not "Potential" fulfill it's potential by becoming another thing. Why can "Potential" not be the first 'actuality'.

Aristotle also says that eternal or imperishable things are prior in substance and in being to perishable things, because eternal things have no beginning or end. Non-eternal or perishable things have a beginning and an end.

Aristotle also says that eternal ("Potential") or imperishable ("Aware") things are prior in substance and in being to perishable things, because eternal ("Potential") things have no beginning or end. Non-eternal or perishable things (Form) have a beginning and an end.

Furthermore, essential causes and principles are prior to accidental causes and principles. Events cannot happen accidentally unless there are essential reasons or principles while allow them to happen that way.

The nature of "Potential" is to fulfill. 'Fulfill' is an 'essential' reason, or 'principle for 'causes' to happen.

Aristotle explains that while physics (or natural science) is concerned with things which are ‘movable’ or ‘changeable,’ metaphysics is concerned with things which are ‘immovable’ or ‘unchangeable.’ Metaphysics is a ‘first philosophy’ in that it is concerned with defining the nature of being, while the other branches of science and philosophy are concerned with defining the classes (genera and species) of being.

This statement by Aristotle is perfect. Metaphysics concerns the 'immovable' or 'unchangeable', "Aware" and its inherent "Potential".

So I would require further elucidation regarding this esoteric matter before I comment further.

I do not know how to expand upon the great incites of Aristotle explaining the what I also see. I am only trying to express the incites of Aristotle and others, in a more refined modern context.

Sorry PPA and best to all, Pat