[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie Ten thousand years of preaching falsehoods in the east, and you want to continue the same falsehoods. These schools of thought have been proven false by such notables as Feurabach and Adorno[plus hundreds of others], with their negative dialectics, something I don't expect you to understand, but others may be interested, in the real sciences of the mind/brain states. There is nothing you or anyone can do to make these falsehoods true to any mature human being educated in the real sciences and philosophies, of sensible human understandings. All the ontological mountains of words, from ten thousand years ago to today, can not erase these known falsehoods. Until you start connecting these ontic ideas to the scientific essence of humanity, other than exaggerated spiritual musings of moot redundancies, you have no true science of mind... These musings are nothing new to the educated mind. There has always been the warring schools of thought. China called them the 100 schools of warring ideas. All the new esoteric schools of India and China were no more than the criticisms of the older schools of power, whether the Hindus gainst the Brhamas, Janes, the Buddhists or what have you, and even the Buddhists of one Buddhist school against another, such as the atheist Buddhists against the theist Buddhists. I am well aware of all the arguments, wars and disputations of intellectual intercourse of the many warring schools, as Comparative Religions was one of the first subjects I studied, years ago, and have also followed all the newest differences and newer wars. Your side has no way of resolving these wars, because they are at origin, nothing more than intuitive choices, taken too over-seriously, by the believers of all the different schools of thought. That is why science was developed to the level of the present day___to have a set of rules that must be adherred to, to achieve successful outcomes of sensible debates. Since your side has no comparable set of scientific rules, just moral rules that none of your schools can agree on, the war continues, not only with science, but with your own entire clan of theist fakars. regards,

Sorry but you are totally,absolutely,utterly,wrong on all accounts,and also setting yourself
up as a buffoon,and are in grave danger of becoming a laughing stock,please quit while
you are ahead.

regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Sorry but you are totally,absolutely,utterly,wrong on all accounts,and also setting yourself up as a buffoon,and are in grave danger of becoming a laughing stock,please quit while you are ahead. regards michael.

That's how ignorant you are, MK. You are not only a buffoon, but a stupid buffoon. The facts of history are just as my post stated. You should at least, learn up to the kindergarten level, before opening your atrociously silly imbecilic mouth...

regards dear,

p.s.
Robert, what are you going to do with this ignoramous, that won't even think of listening to the facts?

[Infinite Consciousness]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie That's how ignorant you are, MK. You are not only a buffoon, but a stupid buffoon. The facts of history are just as my post stated. You should at least, learn up to the kindergarten level, before opening your atrociously silly imbecilic mouth... regards dear, p.s. Robert, what are you going to do with this ignoramous, that won't even think of listening to the facts?

Robert, O fearless leader, Help ! Your Kingdom of ToeQuest is being destroyed by your moderators who are out of control. When two bullocks fight the fields don't get plowed and no crops come in.

The only quest we see here is who has the biggest - loudest - most obnoxious ego. IS anyone here - looking for - or care about - Truth ?

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by Infinite Consciousness IS anyone here - looking for - or care about - Truth ?

I wish more posters had a bit more truth, also...

regards,

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie That's how ignorant you are, MK. You are not only a buffoon, but a stupid buffoon. The facts of history are just as my post stated. You should at least, learn up to the kindergarten level, before opening your atrociously silly imbecilic mouth... regards dear, p.s. Robert, what are you going to do with this ignoramous, that won't even think of listening to the facts?

Lloyd this is a thread that I started,I am entitled to my opinion on this thread without
harrisment from you,I have no intention or interest in your opinions,I accept the universal
revelation of how it is,and have been more than satisfied with it for the last 40 years,I
have therefore no intention of listening to your opinionated version ofwhat you think is
real,so forget it,ok,you are utterly wasting your time buddy.I should checkyour blood
pressure,just to be on the safe side.

regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Infinite Consciousness Robert, O fearless leader, Help ! Your Kingdom of ToeQuest is being destroyed by your moderators who are out of control. When two bullocks fight the fields don't get plowed and no crops come in. The only quest we see here is who has the biggest - loudest - most obnoxious ego. IS anyone here - looking for - or care about - Truth ?

You are incorrect here William,we are not out of control,as you wrongly state,
rather we are having a disagreement about fundamental universal principles,
But I do take your point that we should both set a better example,and for that I
do apoligise,and thank you for bringing this to my attention.

regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Lloyd this is a thread that I started,I am entitled to my opinion on this thread without harrisment from you,I have no intention or interest in your opinions,I accept the universal revelation of how it is,and have been more than satisfied with it for the last 40 years,I have therefore no intention of listening to your opinionated version ofwhat you think is real,so forget it,ok,you are utterly wasting your time buddy.I should checkyour blood pressure,just to be on the safe side. regards michael.

MK, I don't believe in the talking/thinking head, the great white pumpkin in the sky, but I do find it necessary for both of us to find a unification of our differences, as this is the crux of any possible TOE. This is the age old differences of the spirit/matter, mind/body debate.

"Spirit and matter___The greater can always produce the lesser. The lesser can never produce the greater. Matter is scientifically the greater substance than spirit. This is true even to spiritists." me

regards,

p.s.
These diffs must be resolved...

[mkirkpatrick]

We are all products of mind,we live in a mindful universe,brought about by creative thought,all is thought,set,congealed,condensed into matter,we live and move and have our being within the mind of the One.
Although this concept can seem or even be difficult to accept,if looked at with an open
mind,and a will to inquire,the understanding will come,if one practises meditation then
you can ask your "higher self" the question;"are we products of absolute mind"?You
will recieve an answer to that inquiry,if asked honestly.



regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick We are all products of mind,we live in a mindful universe,brought about by creative thought,all is thought,set,congealed,condensed into matter,we live and move and have our being within the mind of the One. Although this concept can seem or even be difficult to accept,if looked at with an open mind,and a will to inquire,the understanding will come,if one practises meditation then you can ask your "higher self" the question;"are we products of absolute mind"?You will recieve an answer to that inquiry,if asked honestly. regards michael.

If mind, then science of a TOE would ask how matter motions create this mind, before the bio-era, when only hot and cold rocks, and gas balls existed???

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie If mind, then science of a TOE would ask how matter motions create this mind, before the bio-era, when only hot and cold rocks, and gas balls existed???

Again you are incorrect,mind,life,consciousness,intelligence,are eternal absolute constants
what in the name of reality has a Bio-era got to do with it?You are trapped my friend in
a materialists cul-de-sac,life ,I mean life with a capital L,is eternal,has no beginning it is
beyond Alpha and Omega,It just IS!

Bio-era has absolutely nothing to do with the reality of ubiquitous LIFE!


regards michael.