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I wouldn't call all that a nothing, but just what it is, namely everything.

Thanks for the story in the post. 'Tis but a story among many such variants or even different ones. Stories about what is are not necessarily the truth of what is.

I didn't worry about the finger poking, as you saw.

We imagine and glory in our imaginations. Here is one I made about quarks and little stuff plus some bigger glorious stuff along with some heavenly music in 'Forever's Edge':

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I wouldn't call all that a nothing, but just what it is, namely everything.

Thanks for the story in the post. 'Tis but a story among many such variants or even different ones. Stories about what is are not necessarily the truth of what is.

I didn't worry about the finger poking, as you saw.

We imagine and glory in our imaginations. Here is one I made about quarks and little stuff plus some bigger glorious stuff along with some heavenly music in 'Forever's Edge':

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Awakening is a flowering of your innermost being.


It is a revelation of your essence,


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Enlightenment is an ending as well as a beginning:


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an infinite field of the Unknown,


an adventure in consciousness.


It is a revolution:


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It is freedom from the known and the unknown;


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It is the abandoning of beliefs, dis-beliefs,


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call it what you will,


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Thank you fredrick...

"Condemnation without Investigation is the Height of Ignorance." ~Albert Einstein

The Word of God: *this goes with michaels "will and intent" post as well...thanks michael*

A brief compendium:

Reciteth= to say
Intone= to chant or speak melodiously, clearly in a beautiful voice
Utterance= spoken word

When reading- It is imporatant to understand meanings...see above...

Words- (Specifically- Word of God)
HAVE POWER "The Word of God is the cause of the entire creation"

"Is it within human power . . .to effect in the constituent elements of any of the minute ans indivisible particles of matter so complete a transformation as to transmute it into purest gold? Peplexing ans difficult as this may appear, the still greater task of converting satanic strength inot heavenly power is one that We have been empowered to accomplish . . . The Word of God, alone, can claim the distinction of being endowed with the capacity required for so great and farreaching a change." ~Gleanings 200

" a power above and beyond the powers of nature must needs be brought to bear, to change this black darkness into light, and these haatreds and resentments, grudes and spites, these endless wrangles and wars, into fellowship and love amongst all the peoples of the earth. THis power is none other than the breathings of the Holy Spirit and the mighty inflow of the Word of God.

"Problems cannot be solved withe same consciousness that created them." ~Albert Einstein

Words especially from The Omniscient (our own Higher- Conscience) not our wayward relative consciousness the Soul...Our Psyche...has dual aspects...One Divine and Eternal or Infinite[sidereal]...the other finite and temporal or finite[body/sensorial]...

Words HAVE POWER- specifically Word of God
1. The Power to Create- in the Logoi, psyche, (or destroy)
2. Attract-Divine verses have the Power o the inbreath of the Holy Spirit the mother principle of ideation giving birth to the word by way of the Higher Conscience (Omniscience)we all have one and it's the same "Father" in all of us as far as our thoughts go...that draws people together...
3. Transform- Change- The Word of God, The Father (Omniscience-see above) causes people to grow spiritually.

Imporatant to remember "God" (see above) is creator and are created in the image of God- ergo
we can also create

We can create with words (make someone happy)
"Can any power withstand the penetrative influenc of the word of god? nay, by God (Omiscience ="Higher Conscience") the one within us...For these divine injuctions tame every ferocious beast, transform the creepin insect inot a soaring bird, cause huan souls to become angels of the Kingdom, and make the human world a focus for the qualities of mercy." Selctions from the Writings...

The Word of God (see above+ Omniscient or Our very own "Higher- Conscience") is the king of words and it's pervasive influence is incslculable. It hath ever dominated and will continue to to dominate the realm of being. The Great Being saith: The Word is the master key for the whole world, inasmuch as through its potency the doors of the hearts of men, which in reality are the doors to heaven, are unlocked. . . .It is an ocean inexhaustable in riches, comprehending all things. Everything which can be perceived is but an emanation therefrom." ~ Tablets

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Thank you, Drifter, I could probably not agree with you more.

I have been fascinated by words myself, and in light of what you write, there are two groups of words that are truly different:
Objective words and Subjective words.

An example of objective words: the city was ten miles away.
An example of subjective words: it was an evil city.

Of course, President W brought back the subjective words that had been kind of pushed out of most presidents' vocabularies over the last few decades when he called Iran, Iraq and North Korea the axis of evil. Well, maybe President RR did that too when calling the Sovyet Union Satan's Empire or something similar.

When mentioning that a city is ten miles away, all people in that same position as the speaker will agree, even when miles are a man-made construct. There is no disagreement possible, and the words are therefore objective.

When mentioning that a city is evil, all people in the same position as the speaker will not necessarily agree. It is the speaker's viewpoint that comes out in the words, and that belongs to primarily the speaker. Others may or may not agree. There is disagreement possible, and the words are therefore subjective.

If we take the word 'evil' and apply it to someone else, that other person can apply that same word back to us. Both would therefore regard the other as evil, and themselves as good. In politics, people may agree that all politicians are evil, but that is just a cheap ploy of words. In reality, some politicians truly want to be good, and when asking people about politician X, you will get a variety of answers.

God's words are all subjective words, because they deliver the perspective of the divine speaker, no matter the superb power that comes along with these words. There are no objective divine words. Or, these words deliver the perspective of the human speaker using the divine power to empower him- or herself with a divine cape. Naturally, you know that speaking about god just to posturize oneself is vanity, one of the seven sins. Even when feeling really tiny and small and meaning really well, it is still not good to enlarge ourselves to divine proportions just to get rid of that feeling. In reality, we are all very small.

Objectively speaking: we can be big if we sit on a kid's bike or walk next to (or on top of) ants, but we are small beings carried around on the back of a giant planet, itself tiny compared to the sun, itself tiny compared to the solar system, itself tiny compared to the Milky Way, itself tiny compared...

Subjectively speaking: we are fantastic, we are miracles, we are evil, we are deviant, we are fun, we are...

P.S. nice pictures, Drifter!
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Annihilation of the Soul and the immortal Spirit

http://johncoven.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/isis-unveiled-and-reincarnation-a-refutation/

An important mission of the Isis Unveiled was to reintroduce the distinction between soul and spirit. The terms spirit and soul had become synonyms in Western thought, and in those rare cases where spirit and soul were treated as different factors, it were by a superficial and confusing manner. The teaching of the spirit in man was abrogated by the eighth ecumenical council (Constantinople, 869-870), thenceforth the human being consisted of a duality in rational soul and body as it was considered heretical to assume a threefold human constitution. Blavatsky had before her a jungle of concepts and prejudices to elucidate before anything else, and it was found wise to withhold the explicit teachings of the sevenfold constitution of man (although it is given hints on). The human psychological constitution was instead simplified as spirit and a dual soul. The dual soul denotes the rational mind, and on the other hand the irrational sensations (which in later Theosophy is identified as the astral body even though Blavatsky rarely utilized the expression ‘astral’ in this correlation, but to what is later known as the etheric body). The spirit (in Isis Unveiled) denotes the inner ego, the individual I in the truest sense, whereas the soul denotes the perishable psyche, which contains the worldly intellect and the mortal characters of man. This is why it is said that the soul is fashioning by the spirit in incarnation, and the soul is consequently a structure or a body of lower principles which the spirit has to free itself from in death. The eternal nature of the human being is thus spirit, the ego, and the mortal structure is the bodies that are known as the mental and astral vehicle, the embodiment of the lower principles which constitutes the lower man, the personality, kama-manas. The Secret Doctrine affirms that the human does not reincarnate with the same personality. It is this statement that had an alarming effect on many casual readers not realizing that the soul (as denoted in Isis Unveiled) does not contains that which is self-conscious in man, which is spirit, but only the sense-principles and qualities which the incarnating aspect of the spirit (the ray of the spirit) has falsely identified itself with, thus obtaining that partial consciousness which implies karmic incarnation. To be ignorant of this opens up many problems in reading Isis Unveiled as it then would appear that Blavatsky advocate annihilation of man in an universal evolution that holds no place for reincarnation, only by exceptional occasions.
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Thank you, Drifter, I could probably not agree with you more.

I have been fascinated by words myself, and in light of what you write, there are two groups of words that are truly different:
Objective words and Subjective words.

An example of objective words: the city was ten miles away.
An example of subjective words: it was an evil city.

Of course, President W brought back the subjective words that had been kind of pushed out of most presidents' vocabularies over the last few decades when he called Iran, Iraq and North Korea the axis of evil. Well, maybe President RR did that too when calling the Sovyet Union Satan's Empire or something similar.

When mentioning that a city is ten miles away, all people in that same position as the speaker will agree, even when miles are a man-made construct. There is no disagreement possible, and the words are therefore objective.

When mentioning that a city is evil, all people in the same position as the speaker will not necessarily agree. It is the speaker's viewpoint that comes out in the words, and that belongs to primarily the speaker. Others may or may not agree. There is disagreement possible, and the words are therefore subjective.

If we take the word 'evil' and apply it to someone else, that other person can apply that same word back to us. Both would therefore regard the other as evil, and themselves as good. In politics, people may agree that all politicians are evil, but that is just a cheap ploy of words. In reality, some politicians truly want to be good, and when asking people about politician X, you will get a variety of answers.

God's words are all subjective words, because they deliver the perspective of the divine speaker, no matter the superb power that comes along with these words. There are no objective divine words. Or, these words deliver the perspective of the human speaker using the divine power to empower him- or herself with a divine cape. Naturally, you know that speaking about god just to posturize oneself is vanity, one of the seven sins. Even when feeling really tiny and small and meaning really well, it is still not good to enlarge ourselves to divine proportions just to get rid of that feeling. In reality, we are all very small.

Objectively speaking: we can be big if we sit on a kid's bike or walk next to (or on top of) ants, but we are small beings carried around on the back of a giant planet, itself tiny compared to the sun, itself tiny compared to the solar system, itself tiny compared to the Milky Way, itself tiny compared...

Subjectively speaking: we are fantastic, we are miracles, we are evil, we are deviant, we are fun, we are...

P.S. nice pictures, Drifter!
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It has long been decided that there are “things” and then there are “no things”. Yet the further we delve into matter, the further we verify the “space” between so-called particles. http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/j...csu/powersof10


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Annihilation of the Soul and the immortal Spirit

http://johncoven.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/isis-unveiled-and-reincarnation-a-refutation/

An important mission of the Isis Unveiled was to reintroduce the distinction between soul and spirit. The terms spirit and soul had become synonyms in Western thought, and in those rare cases where spirit and soul were treated as different factors, it were by a superficial and confusing manner. The teaching of the spirit in man was abrogated by the eighth ecumenical council (Constantinople, 869-870), thenceforth the human being consisted of a duality in rational soul and body as it was considered heretical to assume a threefold human constitution. Blavatsky had before her a jungle of concepts and prejudices to elucidate before anything else, and it was found wise to withhold the explicit teachings of the sevenfold constitution of man (although it is given hints on). The human psychological constitution was instead simplified as spirit and a dual soul. The dual soul denotes the rational mind, and on the other hand the irrational sensations (which in later Theosophy is identified as the astral body even though Blavatsky rarely utilized the expression ‘astral’ in this correlation, but to what is later known as the etheric body). The spirit (in Isis Unveiled) denotes the inner ego, the individual I in the truest sense, whereas the soul denotes the perishable psyche, which contains the worldly intellect and the mortal characters of man. This is why it is said that the soul is fashioning by the spirit in incarnation, and the soul is consequently a structure or a body of lower principles which the spirit has to free itself from in death. The eternal nature of the human being is thus spirit, the ego, and the mortal structure is the bodies that are known as the mental and astral vehicle, the embodiment of the lower principles which constitutes the lower man, the personality, kama-manas. The Secret Doctrine affirms that the human does not reincarnate with the same personality. It is this statement that had an alarming effect on many casual readers not realizing that the soul (as denoted in Isis Unveiled) does not contains that which is self-conscious in man, which is spirit, but only the sense-principles and qualities which the incarnating aspect of the spirit (the ray of the spirit) has falsely identified itself with, thus obtaining that partial consciousness which implies karmic incarnation. To be ignorant of this opens up many problems in reading Isis Unveiled as it then would appear that Blavatsky advocate annihilation of man in an universal evolution that holds no place for reincarnation, only by exceptional occasions.
So then Drifter is it correct to say that the soul is:
The dual rational irrational mind sensations of the astral ethical body's perishable psyche of worldly intellectual and moral character fashioned by the spirit and the structure of lower principles, the eternal mortal mental astral vehicle, and karma-manas sense-principles ray of karmic incarnation?

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I cannot speak politically, neither can i use high sounding words.
I come from a very pious and simple awareness.
Simplification, imho is the way to go ....
Complication is getting lost in the fog of false belief systems.

All of THIS life ... must have started off very simple, and it did of course,
so why have we made it all so complicated?? .. i've never been able to understand that.....lol


Sorry about the following essay.... i don't plan this kinda stuff, it comes out like an arrow

Y(our) '' REALITY'' is by nature '' NON-DUAL''

But is THIS another concept another assumption?

Fredrick you mention the use of words..... yes it's all about words, our lives and our reality is built upon our ability to use words as a means to communicate language,
A particular unique form of expression known to man.

Words have become our belief systems, our conditioned mind sets.
Where in fact these beliefs are nothing more than yesterdays news and mostly lies.
Many Ideas and notions are man made CON-coctions to fit mans particular criteria.
Which in reality, can never sum up the true nature of Y(our) true self which is Fundamentally Non-dual-Awake- and Peaceful.

The catch 22 or the supreme paradox is that we can have no reality without duality.
As we identify and make sense of our world by ways of reasoning and communication,
we must realize that words are only ever i-deas, thoughts, & concepts,
And that they can never Reflect or Convey the true essence of Y(our) ultimate natural nature.. which is Nondual.
And yet 'something' unseen, unheard, not a concept, not a thought.
Knows each and every thought/concept as it rises.
Talk or write about it, and it has become a concept again.
All this is KNOWN .....One with the knowing.
We must not let words fool us, we must look beyond the word into the mysteriousness of it's true meaning, the very word ''WORD''
is meaningless, and yet all words point to something beyond the word.
Example the word 'Sweet' is not sweet, but once tasted we know what the word ''sweet'' indicates.
And just because somebody says a mean word to you, does not mean you are a mean person, or that you are that mean word.
We have to get out of our Literal Mentality and look beyond words and there meanings.
When we look beyond our means of communication, we can realize words mean ABSOLUTELY nothing, within the bigger picture.
They are the tools we use in this play, they are the props, they prop up Y(our) world and make it ''appear'' real. Tools we use ... to play the game.
Play on words....Word Play.....
And lets not forget our lines.... as the characters in the play.....

Ultimately mankind is doomed, until he awakens from his slumber,
we need to awaken from the seductiveness of duality and it's hypnotic pull on the senses.
Although non-duality ''appears'' as duality, we must wake-up and realize THAT duality is the ultimate ILLUSION it is a belief.
This is what we mean when we talk about an illusional world.
It is both REAL and UN-REAL neither this nor that... both and yet neither.
Neti Neti.
When we take it all too seriously we run into such problems as mind games and mental prisons.
This reality in essence .. is a temporal, transient ''appearance'' of spectacular beauty for no- separate one .... it is for every-one united.
All at once.
A Self Shining dis-PLAY of ONENESS ''appearing'' as TWONESS and more.

This One with knowing .. is none other than your very own self,
You are a unique spark, an expression of the divine fire.
We can all wake up to this non-dual reality,
many are waking up to their true divine eternal divinity every day,
many are not,
ultimately we must, for if we do not,
we will keep on making the same old mistakes over and over again.
All evil corruption in the world is 'apparent' within reality,
Is it not the adversities of our lives, that become the calling cards for change and personal growth.
The divine beloved one.. SHE is very subtle, she whispers gently into the maelstrom of our daily lives... 'wake up' 'wake up'
hoping to make us more aware of this LIVE miracle of our being,
She is whispering ... and yet we take it all for granted.
We must open our eyes to the awesomeness of ourselves and re-unite with our beloved one, and not to imagine we are separate, or that we are cut off, or isolated.
Find Y(our) own center.. and stop borrowing beliefs and ideas of others and thinking that it is Y(our) only reality. It is not.
It is a belief system we are conditioned to believe. We have to change our predictable and repetitive thought patterns ..
we must begin to think in newer and more creative ways,
letting go of our old baggage, and allowing for the NOW of no baggage.
Where are Y(our) problems in deep sleep, in the early morning when you first awake, where are they???...exactly!!!
Out of habit the thinking mind starts to kick in.....and it's only mind stuff.....
And where is your mind?? ..... NO-W-here
We are being re-created every second, ever fresh, ever new,
but we miss this subtle clue, we would rather hold onto our old baggage, we identify with this conceptual overlay as who we are, it becomes our identity.
We drag our sorry asses around day in day out living the same old shit.
When all we had to do was to drop the baggage like it's hot.
And to start brand new....to let nature re-new us and replenish us in each new second.
Our skin cells do that to our skin everyday. They die everyday and they do this without instruction,
if they didn't do that, can you imagine what your skin would look like?
Also See how your skin lets water out, but it doesn't let it in,
what divine intelligence is this?
Why don't we trust in, and allow for this divine intelligence,
to live AS and THROUGH 'us' each day without 'us' worrying about the petty details of our lives.
When we drop everything we've got, and become nothing.
When we become nothing, by magic we automatically become everything.
It is as simple as switching our awareness, a shift in our awareness.
Like switching on the Light Switch
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The truth is inside Y(our) very own being, IT is not ''out there''
We reach ''out there'' to others,
believing,
In that, what we ''think'' is happening ''out there'' is the truth of our reality.....It is not.

Out there is really only ever '' IN HERE '' or '' IN YOU ''
It is all ''appearance'' appearing in your very own awareness projecting a world.
Be the change '' You '' want to see in the world.
There is only ONE awareness.
''APPEARING'' AS an entanglement of sorts, a bit like a big pot of minestrone soup.
Superimposition allows for this. We are fragments of the whole enchilada.
It does not mean we all think and act alike .....No
Quite the contrary, we all are unique impressions of the one face.
Bringing much awesome diversity,richness, & creative beauty to the dance of LIFE.
IT is Y(our) birthright, and No-one ever needs to suffer.
When enough people see through the illusion of y(our) duality reality.
And realize that every-'thing' including 'you' is ''arising'' as oneness.
And Remembering there can be no reality without duality...
There will be an Automatic Quantum Leap in Awareness to Oneness
....A mass awakening, to Y(our) natural nondual existence.
Why because we are all interconnected .. there is not one atom that separates reality.

How do we wake up? well imagine for example....
little stones thrown against your bedroom window.
When you hear them, you may get out of bed, look outside,
and be surprised to see your lover there.
Would it matter which exact pebble was the one that woke you up?
ANY - THING can wake you up.....
The sight of little children in iraq, with half their limbs blown off,
being carried to who knows where by their distraught parents perhaps??

Ultimately ...This dance of lila is the heaven or hell of Y( our ) own making.
Because ultimately all the GOOD WORK of y(our) collective ''Brilliant Creative and Innovative Minds ''
All this ''good work'' will completely crumble and collapse.. crashing down like a house of cards.
Or it may not.......

And do we ever see the evidence of all this ''assumed'' good work??
Thank-you for reading.
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Unfettered friends you are free, wake up and smell the Christ Consciousness in You.

Look beyond the meaning of the literal word .. i'm not talking about wars and stuff .... i am talking about the freeing of your mind.

We can wake up one at a time.

Free your limiting mind and expand into the infinity of eternal pure awareness.



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07-15-2008, 09:00 AM
Re: An Idea that became a cosmos

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When man becomes totally en "raptured" one with his beloved...what "else" is there?

No time, No one, No thing...Total absolurion is like that...does it really need further explaining...you strike me as knowing a little bout love?...eh I have a previous post to ring the bell

The sweet sacramental act:

When the soul encounters (relative consciousness or psyche of a man or a woman) 'encounters' or-becomes 'one with'-'knows'-'re-cognises with, 're-members' the Spirit (Higher- Consciousness-Holy Ghost-Christ Consciousness-The Light-The Creator of all 'things')...'Is' the rapture...

Mind, the All-Father, who is Life and Light, gave birth to humanity, which bore his own image, and he took delight in his offspring. Joined to gods by a sense of kinship, humanity worshipped them with piety and holy thoughts, while, for their part the gods watch over humankind with concern and mercy.

At first man was solely eternal and spiritual, but God saw that his new creation could not tend the Earth unless he sheltered him in a material envelope - - giving man a mortal body as well as an immortal soul. So, God bade Nature be, and from his voice came a woman's form, so lovely that the gods were smitten with her beauty. God made Nature mistress of the World.

She communed with herself, producing all kinds of seeds which God took hold of with hi hands and scattered over the Earth, who is the mother of all worldly things. Seeing in man a beautiful image of God, Nature was filled with insatiable love. She clasped him to her, and they merged to become one in love. Mortal and eternal blended and mingled so that Man may perform the demands of sources of his nature. Firstly, to serve God - venerating and praising the things of heaven. Secondly, to assist and administer the things of Earth, by tilling the soil, navigating the waters, building on the land, and by serving each other - that strongest of bonds that links the human race together.

Then God, the master of generation, bestowed on mankind the sacrament of reproduction - full of affection and joy, gladness and yearning, and all the heavenly love that is in his Being.

I would have to explain the nature of this compelling sacred bond that binds a man and a woman together, were it not that each one of us, if we explore our innermost feeling, can experience it for ourselves.

Contemplate that supreme moment, when each sex infuses the other. One giving forth and the other eagerly embracing. At that moment, through the intermingling of the two nature, the female acquires male vigor, and the male is relaxed in female languor. This sweet sacramental act we celebrate is shared in secret, because if performed openly before impure eyes, the ignorant may mock and the divine power manifesting in both sexes will shy away.

Re-call?

Namaste`


Drifter
Beautiful.....thanks for sharing and caring with all D


Namaste.
m.
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