Holonomic Brain Theory

[SB_UK]

first photograpkic evidence that at least the 'holo' may soon be proven.



Scientists liken these first pictures to the splitting of the first atom way back in the swinging twenties
- when women were women

and

men

watched.

[melanie]

I would be interested to know where lucid dreaming fits in,or not!

any comments would be grateful for.

kind regards michael.

Dip:
With the discovery of mirror neurons, it is quite possible that consciousness is just a perception of the brain and is not a seperate entity or is not a entity detached from the brain.
Hence with death everything dies....

What if consciousness is arising concurrently in conjunction with the 'appearance' of the brain as a result of the brain.
A mutual arising,and that the brain is only an i-dea arising within Consciousness.
Consciousness does not need a brain, it is the source within which the brain arises, and not separate from.
There can be no separate entity.
Every-thing arises and disappears, mutually together.
'appearing' both real and non real,
identified via the brain,.. 'self referential' an association with the self recognizing the self
Is is The self knowing it is dreaming IT-self. LUCID.
Does the brain then act as an antenna picking up and re-cognizing data.
Data already conceived.
Like when a radio picks up a signal and music appears in the radio, yet the music is not the radio.
So nothing can ever die ''appearances'' are the illusionary images of consciousness, that was never born.

melanie.

[dipayankar]

Melanie, I really wonder how much you believe in Scientific Biology. However Biological science says that without the brain all perception, consciousness, religoin etc. will be null and void.

What if consciousness is arising concurrently in conjunction with the 'appearance' of the brain as a result of the brain.
A mutual arising,and that the brain is only an i-dea arising within Consciousness.
Consciousness does not need a brain, it is the source within which the brain arises, and not separate from.
There can be no separate entity.
Every-thing arises and disappears, mutually together.
'appearing' both real and non real,
identified via the brain,.. 'self referential' an association with the self recognizing the self
Is is The self knowing it is dreaming IT-self. LUCID.
Does the brain then act as an antenna picking up and re-cognizing data.
Data already conceived.
Like when a radio picks up a signal and music appears in the radio, yet the music is not the radio.
So nothing can ever die ''appearances'' are the illusionary images of consciousness, that was never born.

melanie.

[melanie]

Melanie, I really wonder how much you believe in Scientific Biology. However Biological science says that without the brain all perception, consciousness, religoin etc. will be null and void.

Yes it is true, once the body dies, the consciousness or as i like to call it ''the illumination'' goes out too.
But the 'you' that died in the waking dream has now gone to the deep dreamless sleep. Pure Awareness State.
"Real literal life" is another dream, namely: "the waking dream".
Simply "Oneness" dreaming "Itself" to be "two": "me" and "the world".
The dreamer [pure conscious awareness] lucid dreaming.


What force makes the sperm unite with the egg dividing and separating into all it's parts resulting in a fully formed living entity even before it's own brain has developed into a perceiving organ.
The baby lives in a state of pure awareness consciousness.
It is 2 years old before it starts to perceive it's reality.
Consciousness is an aspect of awareness, awareness is the eternal illuminator.

OR ..Does the brain of the mother act as the functioning factors in the process of the new life forming inside her.?

[dipayankar]

Actually as soon as the Zygote is formed, the brain starts forming...

Yes it is true, once the body dies, the consciousness or as i like to call it ''the illumination'' goes out too.
But the 'you' that died in the waking dream has now gone to the deep dreamless sleep. Pure Awareness State.
"Real literal life" is another dream, namely: "the waking dream".
Simply "Oneness" dreaming "Itself" to be "two": "me" and "the world".
The dreamer [pure conscious awareness] lucid dreaming.


What force makes the sperm unite with the egg dividing and separating into all it's parts resulting in a fully formed living entity even before it's own brain has developed into a perceiving organ.
The baby lives in a state of pure awareness consciousness.
It is 2 years old before it starts to perceive it's reality.
Consciousness is an aspect of awareness, awareness is the eternal illuminator.

OR ..Does the brain of the mother act as the functioning factors in the process of the new life forming inside her.?

[melanie]

Actually as soon as the Zygote is formed, the brain starts forming...

Yes but consciousness was present before the zygote formed.
It was latent, until sensation senses are known, re-cognized via the brain, creating a reality.

We could in fact say reality arises via consciousness on contact with the senses, working together concurrently.

Which in effect means existence and non-existence arise in conjunction with each other.
A simultaneous phenomena.

'Appearing' to go on Forever and ever.
Which is good and not so good news.
Depending how you see it.

melanie.