Blind painter

[VanillaGorilla]

I saw a program on the Science channel, about a turkish man who was born without eyes. This Man can paint lanscapes showing colors and depth . He can paint birds in flight, the shadows of a tree in green grass.. What this implies, is that we dont see with our eyes, we see with our brain. So when your eyes let in the light from an object your brain assigns a color. and we agreee generally on the color, but what if what we see is a little different from one person to another. Who knows?
I am amazed by some of the humans on this rock island we call home. Its too bad that so much of our time is wasted on argueing over perception. Especially now, since we're learning that perception will never be the same between two people. So remember if its blue to you, it might be green to me, but we both call it blue!!

[dleviwing]

Hi VG;
The spectral sensitivity of the human eye is well known and is similar in all normal humans. There are tests that can determine the variance of individuals; they are used to determine color blindness. If you have normal vision, I can guarantee that you will see the same blue as I do with only a variance due our age differences.
You really should study your topics before making such statements.

[austintorn@aol.com]

But the color coordination of some people still always looks like they got dressed in the dark.

However, there may be three classes of taste buds, I believe, since someone is always saying "this tastes great" when it doesn't. Some kids have no taste buds at all and don't like anything.

Color blindness is of one of the 3 types of protein cones not working that rotate according to the degree of their sought out primary color being there.

What the 3 primary colors are in the spectrum seems to have been arbitrarily "chosen" by evolution, unless someone knows why.

[VanillaGorilla]

I was speaking of a program I saw, and repeating the statements of the program! And just because we agree on a color it doesnt mean we see the same thing!!! If all my life my parents told me that bananas are purple, even if I see the same 'yellow' i will call it purple, and it goes the other way. Just because we call it the same 'name' doesn't make it the same color!!!!So dont be so quick to judge my study habits, you have no clue to my education, profession, and especially my study habits. ( I am offended by your remarks) and I thought that this site was for gathering information to better inform those who are curious, not ridicule them for offering new information!!!(again apologies for spelling errors)

[VanillaGorilla]

REMEMBER , the gentleman I'm speaking of has NO eyes!ok!!

[baudrunner]

Almost all kids have very powerful taste buds because they are young and new to experience. Believe it or not, I didn't like vanilla ice cream or tomato soup when I was a kid, but I loved chocolate milk.

Fact: The vast majority of people who are "legally blind" can see a little. There are not just varying degrees of not being able to see, it comes down to the type of blindness and how severe the affectation on sight is, that the condition presents. The only truly "blind" people are those who have an open - a broken link - in the nerves between the receptors on the retinas of both eyes and the occipital lobe. They are extremely rare.

[baudrunner]

but I just explained that one does not actually need eyes to see enough to at least partially interpret their reality, however vague the sensory information is. He must still have some optical receptors.

[VanillaGorilla]

No eyes!!!! not just blind ,ok!!Empty eye sockets!!! And the guy paints beatiful scenery, with shadows, color, and depth!!! How is this even possible? This is my question, not color blindness, or broken optic nerve. NO EYES. But, he know what the ocean looks like as it crashes onto the beach!!!Even the white foam is painted. Painting of a tree, with green leaves. How could he know what green even is, and what leaves even look like. It changes what scientist think about sight!!!!!

[baudrunner]

Here's an addendum to the sight discussion.

The fly is a creature which has had the time to evolve a virtually numberless evolutionary enhancements, compared to the generational differences between humans and flies. They can fly. It's really hard to prevent them from doing that, almost to the point that they exhibit arrogance, by flying away so casually when you try to swat them. I have only ever managed to snag a few out of the air, then just as likely be inclined to release them as pull their wings off to keep them as pets, until I am bored of them.

So what does it take to know? The fly's visual program actually combines the information from all the facets of its compound eyes into a single image. It has excellent depth perception and its ability to judge distance quickly is unsurpassed, even peripherally.

We are much more complex. So that means that we have almost limitless capabilities where our abilities of perception are concerned.

[dleviwing]

I would need more information of the program but I would say off hand that we’re being had!