[melanie]

Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle
You are asking me whether I am attracted to it, or not!

- I am not! This particular item seems to uphold your notion of Gravity, and does not attract me in the slightest! Whenever I see the word 'God' now, it just reminds me of the sad cases of child abuse I keep reading about in the news. I guess that doesn't matter, as we are all One with ALL the monsters as well! Perhaps it can be seen from this, that a certain amount of 'separation' is sometimes advantageous?

Where there is separation suffering arises,
The rose and the thorn are polar opposites, and yet are ONE
You could say the thorn is the chaos i don't like,
but you cannot SEPARATE the two, TWO is really ONE
All arising as appearances in this eternal IS-ness that is life,
Life repeats itself mindlessly unless you become mindful, it will go on repeating like a wheel.
That's why Buddhists call it the wheel of life and death the wheel of time. It moves like a wheel,
birth is followed by death, death is followed by birth, love is followed by hate, hate is followed by love,
success is followed by failure, failure is followed by success. Just see.
If you can watch just for a few days, you will see a pattern emerging, a wheel pattern.
One day, a fine morning, you are feeling so good and so happy, and another day you are so dull, so dead that you start thinking of committing suicide.
And just the other day you were so full of life, so blissful that you were feeling thankful to god that you were in a mood of deep gratefulness,
and today there is great complaint and you don't see the point why one should go on living,
And it goes on and on, but you don't see the pattern.
Once you see the pattern, you can get out it.



Love melanie.

[MJA]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

Is that yes an affirmative equalibrium MJA?



regards michael.

Equalibrium

Is
The Balance Point
of
Truth
Justice
Freedom
TOE

=
MJA

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by MJA

Equalibrium

Is
The Balance Point
of
Truth
Justice
Freedom
TOE

=

MJA

I hope that when we are weighed on these scales of justice,we will not be found wanting!

regards michael.

[melanie]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

Thanks Melanie,there is a vast gulf within,and to the newly awakened traveler it
is indeed a scary place,endlessness in all directions,nowhere to hide,all is revealing,
feeling naked,and vulnerable,all these sensations arise within the traveler,then when
the pressure suggests retreat,you momentarly hesitate,boldness arises from deep within,
and a feeling of great warmth settles upon you,the sun has arisen within the quester and
all is found to be exceedingly well.



regards michael.

Thanks michael,
Being 'in the gap' can be disorienting and even scary. Nothing to hold on to, no sense of direction, not even a hint of what choices and possibilities might lie ahead. But it was just this state of pure potential that existed before the universe was created. All you can do now is to relax into this nothingness fall into this silence between the words ... watch this gap between the outgoing and incoming breath. And treasure each empty moment of the experience. Something sacred is about to be born.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by melanie

Thanks michael,
Being 'in the gap' can be disorienting and even scary. Nothing to hold on to, no sense of direction, not even a hint of what choices and possibilities might lie ahead. But it was just this state of pure potential that existed before the universe was created. All you can do now is to relax into this nothingness fall into this silence between the words ... watch this gap between the outgoing and incoming breath. And treasure each empty moment of the experience. Something sacred is about to be born.

Indeed something IS Melanie!Which explains the exclaimation,lest a man be born again
without entering the womb twice?



regards michael.

[melanie]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

Indeed something IS Melanie!Which explains the exclaimation,lest a man be born again
without entering the womb twice?



regards michael.

takes the pressure off mum and everything else for that matter huh?

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by melanie

takes the pressure off mum and everything else for that matter huh?

Rumour has it I was found under a gooseberry bush!

regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Prehaps the most difficult idea to let go of was the "idea" of the ONE-that which "IS",I
well remember years ago when thinking this idea through,a feeling of unease came upon me,I became quite restless and figitty,there was a "dawning" taking place within me which
seemed to suggest very strongly that even the ONE was not correct!It said that ONe was a number and was thereby comparable,are you of the thinking that which IS can be compared?

I then understood that to really try and go beyond that which IS,is rather futile! For in truth there are no words that can bring into recognizible cognition that which IS!

It also brings into focus the idea of the One posing as the many,and that things are
reduced to thing,and will remain that way until we again pass through the portal of
noumena into that which forever "IS".



regards michael.

[Fluent Piffle]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

Sure thing pif,however there is room for all parties to contribute!

regards michael.

Well, I never once suggested to the contrary, and in fact answered melanie's post first, quite happily, I might add.

You said, 'sure thing', and then failed to answer the original question, Michael.

"Are we not 'attracted' to the idea of the One?"



pif.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle

Well, I never once suggested to the contrary, and in fact answered melanie's post first, quite happily, I might add.

You said, 'sure thing', and then failed to answer the original question, Michael.

"Are we not 'attracted' to the idea of the One?"



pif.

I used to be pif,attracted to the idea of the One,but no longer,as there just "IS" NOW!



regards michael.