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Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less. - 02-11-2008, 04:39 AM

Ah, so you are attracted to the idea of 'just "IS"', now, then?



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Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less. - 02-11-2008, 10:42 AM

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"Are we not 'attracted' to the idea of the One?"

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For me, I feel a natural gravitation or attraction to unite a universe divided by mankind's obsession with division and difference. That attraction I have is what brings me here to TOE. That attraction is the One solution that will unite those man-made differences and set the universe free. That attraction of oneness is simply a gravitation to nature's truth. Not what "is" as Michael says, but rather what certainly and naturally and truly shall be!

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Ah, so you are attracted to the idea of 'just "IS"', now, then?



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No I am not pif! I used to be,but that was before I had realised that acceptance was all
that was needed or indeed required.Attraction has its polar opposite within it,best to ignore them both I find.



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For me, I feel a natural gravitation or attraction to unite a universe divided by mankind's obsession with division and difference. That attraction I have is what brings me here to TOE. That attraction is the One solution that will unite those man-made differences and set the universe free. That attraction of oneness is simply a gravitation to nature's truth. Not what "is" as Michael says, but rather what certainly and naturally and truly shall be!

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Interesting thoughts MJA,prehaps what "IS shall then truly BE-COME?


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Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less. - 02-11-2008, 06:10 PM

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For me, I feel a natural gravitation or attraction to unite a universe divided by mankind's obsession with division and difference. That attraction I have is what brings me here to TOE. That attraction is the One solution that will unite those man-made differences and set the universe free. That attraction of oneness is simply a gravitation to nature's truth. Not what "is" as Michael says, but rather what certainly and naturally and truly shall be!

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I feel you have understood what I was trying to say, MJA. I think that what we currently call 'Gravity' is an inherent part of all 'things', and that the Natural attraction 'force' is everywhere, as a Natural part of existence. Not just a 'scientific pulling/repelling force'. This is how existence essentially 'pulls itself together', only to explode apart again, and restart the whole process, in continuation...We are 'attracted' to the ideas of each other in no less a fashion.



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Attraction has its polar opposite within it,best to ignore them both I find.
I think, as above, that 'attraction' only has the apparent 'opposite' of 'repulsion', but is actually just One necessary recycling motion...



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Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less. - 02-12-2008, 02:34 AM

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That attraction of oneness is simply a gravitation to nature's truth. Not what "is" as Michael says, but rather what certainly and naturally and truly shall be!

What IS is self evident in THIS ...... appearances appearing and disappearing.

So there is no 'becoming something' from a gravitational attraction perspective.

The ONENESS is already arising as THIS IS-ness.

There is only THIS already self evident-ness .... or IS-ness nothing more, nothing less.

From a separate perspective 'we' are attracted to THIS IS-ness
AS 'we' are not separate from.

THIS IS-ness cannot 'become' what it already IS
which is THIS ..... IS-ness ..... plain to SEE.

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Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less. - 02-12-2008, 03:59 AM

'Since resistance is inseparable from the mind, relinquishment of resistance - surrender - is the end of the mind as your master,
the impostor pretending to be "you," the false god. All judgement and all negativity dissolve.
The realm of Being, which had been obscured by the mind, then opens up.
Suddenly, a great stillness arises within you, an unfathomable sense of peace.
And within that peace, there is great joy.
And within that joy, there is love.
And at the innermost core, there is the sacred, the immeasurable, That which cannot be named.'


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Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less. - 02-12-2008, 05:39 AM

Possibly we are all seeing the same thing through different eyes?

Perhaps, then, we may study each others' 'seeings' to search for signs of sameness?



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Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less. - 02-12-2008, 06:48 AM

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Possibly we are all seeing the same thing through different eyes?

Perhaps, then, we may study each others' 'seeings' to search for signs of sameness?



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'We' are the SEEN

Many appearances / faces / masks .. masquerading AS the ONE original FACE

Just as no two perfect snowflakes are the same .. snow is still snow

Just as no two finger prints are the same .. a human is still a human

Many many different forms, appearances, all arising in this IS-ness


Human perceptions arising as this finite unique individual mind body organism
AS consciousness born of sensation.(WAVE)

In this infinite AWARENESS.(OCEAN)


Just as the little ripple (WAVE) rises out of the ocean appearing as separate ripples

they are not separate from that which they are arising out from .. the vast (OCEAN)


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'Since resistance is inseparable from the mind, relinquishment of resistance - surrender - is the end of the mind as your master,
the impostor pretending to be "you," the false god. All judgement and all negativity dissolve.
The realm of Being, which had been obscured by the mind, then opens up.
Suddenly, a great stillness arises within you, an unfathomable sense of peace.
And within that peace, there is great joy.
And within that joy, there is love.
And at the innermost core, there is the sacred, the immeasurable, That which cannot be named.'


Eckhart Tolle. Practicing the Power of NOW.


C'mon everyone should read this book at least once in their life


love melanie.

Absolutely so Melanie,resistence is struggling against the flow of LIFE,we need to let go
and let GOOD!


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