Noumena = Is-ness=less.

[not2too]

How very SO Melanie,when many are gathered in my name (love) then I AM present,
many times in group meditations have I personally experienced this very statement of
truth.


warm regards michael.

Michael & Melanie,
I think you would be doing humanity a great service to publish a collection of you exchanges in book form. Maybe...its your bodhisattva calling to do so...

With regards,
not2too

[mkirkpatrick]

Michael & Melanie,
I think you would be doing humanity a great service to publish a collection of you exchanges in book form. Maybe...its your bodhisattva calling to do so...

With regards,
not2too

That is a great idea not2too,however do not think that any publisher would be
that interested,no money in it you see,must have,sex,violence,malice aforethought,etc,
that's what seems to sell these days.


warm regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

As it says in ancient text "the way of the warrior is to take heaven by storm,to smash down the door and claim the rightful heritage" we it seems are rather timid and knock
gently!

In very bad grammer and English,we are "IS!Seems a very apt to the point decription
though of what IS.
That which IS is expressed through us as motioned life (made form-al) and in our case
and point within the evolutionary arc self-aware,and self-conscious,we know that we know,what we know....well that depends on our journey to this point,some have been
self-consciously treading the path a while longer than some.


Like a shopping trolley on Christmas eve "we are fully loaded" everything needed for full
and total realization lies within you,and always has done.We want for nothing,we need nothing,we have it all on board-period!


Understanding and more importantly accepting that we are IS,outposts of Divinty within
the arena of the shallow and shadow lands ignites that flame within the heart and sets
our feet firmly on the path of return.


There is no stopping the pilgrim whose heart has been "fired anew" and who hears the call
from far away HOME.

tbc

regards michael.

[melanie]

Originally Posted by not2too
Michael & Melanie,
I think you would be doing humanity a great service to publish a collection of you exchanges in book form. Maybe...its your bodhisattva calling to do so...

With regards,
not2too

Thanks for you're keen observations but..
I have to agree with michael here not2too,
publishers are only interested in the money bu$ine$$
There are way too many Advaita Books around today anyway.

Heaps and Heaps of books have been written about consciousness, beingness, and self-realization.
You can even read all about this subject from the internet library.
The internet is heaving with information about awakening etc etc.
It is all well worth looking into IMHO

Love mel.

=Michael: That is a great idea not2too,however do not think that any publisher would be
that interested,no money in it you see,must have,sex,violence,malice aforethought,etc,
that's what seems to sell these days.


warm regards michael.

[melanie]

= Michael: "we are fully loaded" everything needed for full
and total realization lies within you,and always has done.We want for nothing,we need nothing,we have it all on board-period!

Very nicely put michael, we have been given so much in this eternal life, the gift is embarrassingly abundant ...
Meanwhile a Quote > >
This sounds like an extraordinary statement to make, but in fact all truth is very ordinary.
It is peoples' fantasies of what is true that is so extraordinary.
That we were born and that we face eternal extinction after death is an extraordinary fantasy.

Brian Perkins

In very bad grammer and English,we are "IS! Seems a very apt to the point description though of what IS.

Like an arrow, able to point in all directions but not to itself. This is IT, you are THAT and this IS ..IT is <<<<< LOL

[melanie]

Very nicely put michael, we have been given so much in this eternal life, the gift is embarrassingly abundant ...
Meanwhile a Quote > >
This sounds like an extraordinary statement to make, but in fact all truth is very ordinary.
It is peoples' fantasies of what is true that is so extraordinary.
That we were born and that we face eternal extinction after death is an extraordinary fantasy.

Brian Perkins




Like an arrow, able to point in all directions but not to itself. This is IT, you are THAT and this IS ..IT is <<<<< LOL

Evolution! .....who'd have it eh?

[melanie]

= Michael: As it says in ancient text "the way of the warrior is to take heaven by storm,to smash down the door and claim the rightful heritage"
we it seems are rather timid and knock gently!

Good posting michael,
And of course all Quotes can be read two ways, this one is very clever.


This next one also relates to the above Quote ..

“I can’t wait to go heaven, but I don’t wish to die right away.”

[not2too]

Thanks for you're keen observations but..
I have to agree with michael here not2too,
publishers are only interested in the money bu$ine$$
There are way too many Advaita Books around today anyway.

Heaps and Heaps of books have been written about consciousness, beingness, and self-realization.
You can even read all about this subject from the internet library.
The internet is heaving with information about awakening etc etc.
It is all well worth looking into IMHO

Love mel.

Mel,
I am aware of what's out there - on book as well as digital - the internet is indeed heaving with information about awakening, etc.,etc. One wonders that the net itself doesn't wake itself up in a data-enlightenment explosion of excess info.
Both you and Michael, though, have a way with putting things that, I think, connects better than most. Hence, the suggestion...

Best,
not2too

[mkirkpatrick]

Thanks for all the input here Melanie,you have been a busy poster.Another name for heaven is harmony,and you can have that now,no need to die first Melanie!


A message from "IS" that calls from the "deep within" says to us in a loud and very clear
way "quit this about talk"about =false and relative,"! AM IS and am ALWAYS current and
perpetually within the NOW!

This seems a very hard saying and seemingly impossible to attain,yet it IS so!It is an
ideal to strive for,knowing that practise makes perfect,(or rather practise aligns us to
life current of non-resistence?)

If I talk to you "about" truth then I am at once caught up in a lie-falsehood,for I am talking about using past-tense terminology with regard a dynamic reality that is eternally
SO within the current now!!

So the challenge as I see it is to be current and within the now,and to refrain from talking
about anything in particular-truth-The weather---well its ok to talk about the weather!


regards michael.

[melanie]

Heaven is here NOW on earth, where else is it going to be
it is our ego the 'entity' arising in this IS-ness .. a MISTAKEN ID 'entity'
that wonders where in the hell is heaven
but it is always here NOW where it has always been.

So when we let go of this 'false self' it is called dying before you die.
and as the ego dies the real self is instantaneously re-cognised.
We awaken to eternal life, we are born again. We die but we don't die.

= michael: Another name for heaven is harmony,and you can have that now,no need to die first Melanie!

And yes harmony is available right now at once, it is our natural behavior.