[N0B0DY]

Much better, imo, Michael. Yet the "unknowable" reference would imply our inability to know what the IS is, or even if it is.

If you are referring to the infinitesimal, that can be known even though unobservable because it is the ingredient of greater observed measurements. If the greater composite measurements exist, then what they consist of must exist as well.

I would classify them as phenomenal, though, because appearances are based on the infinite gathering of infinitesimal phenomena. Noumena, defined as a thing in itself, wouldn't exist because all things (phenomena) are composite.

Just a thought...

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY Much better, imo, Michael. Yet the "unknowable" reference would imply our inability to know what the IS is, or even if it is. If you are referring to the infinitesimal, that can be known even though unobservable because it is the ingredient of greater observed measurements. If the greater composite measurements exist, then what they consist of must exist as well. I would classify them as phenomenal, though, because appearances are based on the infinite gathering of infinitesimal phenomena. Noumena, defined as a thing in itself, wouldn't exist because all things (phenomena) are composite. Just a thought...

Thank you most kindly NOBODY,I value your insight,and comments,of course you
are right,noumena is a no-thing,and utterly indescribable,so I need to find another
angle,thanks,am grateful to you.

regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

A midnight indulgence on the words Noumena and IS;

No-thing
Ominipresent
Ubiquitous
Majestic
Enigma
Nowhere
Around= Noumena.

Infinite
Soul/self=IS.

There that feels better,can go to bed now!


regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

That which IS,remains unknown in the relative sense,and is unexplainable,however in the
absolute sense,deep within us,there is an echo of resounding reality to the noumena lying
at depth within.

We can know this reality,but cannot explain it,our consciousness can realize this,and our
very being accept this,however,it cannot be understood by another,it must be personally
experienced.


tbc




regards michael.

[bottomlander]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick A midnight indulgence on the words Noumena and IS; Infinite Soul/self=IS. regards michael.

Dear Micheal,

I have to admit that I read too little articles/books on philosophy and metaphysics. For months, I felt my incapacity as a layman when I saw the term 'IS' frequently appeared in your postings.

I don't know whether IS is the respectful form of "is" (as reality/truth/being) or is it used as an acronym with more definite meanings.
It seems that IS is not just an acronym containing but not limited to Infinite Soul or Inner Self.

I could not find IS in my home dictionaries, online dictionaries, philosophy sites like Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy http://plato.stanford.edu/contents.html, and also not sure whether it has been included among the 96 acronyms listed in acronym finder http://www.acronymattic.com/results.aspx?q=IS.


To learn things not sure seems helpful. Please help.

Best Regards. Bottomlander

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by bottomlander Dear Micheal, I have to admit that I read too little articles/books on philosophy and metaphysics. For months, I felt my incapacity as a layman when I saw the term 'IS' frequently appeared in your postings. I don't know whether IS is the respectful form of "is" (as reality/truth/being) or is it used as an acronym with more definite meanings. It seems that IS is not just an acronym containing but not limited to Infinite Soul or Inner Self. I could not find IS in my home dictionaries, online dictionaries, philosophy sites like Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy http://plato.stanford.edu/contents.html, and also not sure whether it has been included among the 96 acronyms listed in acronym finder http://www.acronymattic.com/results.aspx?q=IS. To learn things not sure seems helpful. Please help. Best Regards. Bottomlander

Dear Wu Chi Kay-bottomlander,I understand your questioning here on the word IS.

IS like the word Noumena are really words that attempt to stand for that which is
indescribable,that which we all live and move in and have our being in,that which
is beyond comprehension and understanding,that which is unexplainable and a great
mystery.That which is LIFE-ITSELF? Is too can be likened to a darkened flame of which
we know absolutely nothing about.

Hope this helps my friend.


warm regards michael.

[MJA]

[quote=N0B0DY;33301]Some say that history repeats itself over and over as well. Who are we to argue?

I noticed you cited "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction" without including the opposite, MJA. 1-1 can be representative of values of opposing forces that do not equal one, but two separate forces/values. When not separated, completely unified, they equal zero.

The other references you cited are based on one single linear force creating two circular forces at half the velocity to create matter. The former represents light and the latter matter, but since the light is offset at every point by its opposite force (gravity), and vice-versa, there is no absolute/accurate point where there is a force.

You also cited in another thread that uncertain measurements refer to reality. This is because we're dealing with velocities infinitely reduced by half for an uncertain amount of time. The "matter" created merges to form an opposite linear force that creates other circular forces at half that velocity infinitely. Without uncertainty, there is no reality, and trying to accurately measure uncertain reality would require an infinitely fast computer.

Equating everything to one is justified only if you can accurately tell us what the one is. Otherwise the one must remain equal to none.[/quote


Dear Nobody,

I appreciate your interest in my work on TOE, but with all due respect and truthfulness, I don't personally agree that numbers are the solution to our mutual quest.

I thought originally that perhaps numbers were the flaw long ago, that numbers kept us from the truth. I don't see that now, and believe it only measure that has hidden nature's truth. Their is purpose in numbers, but not in the truth of nature.

I hope you don't see this disrepectfully, as I only mean to be candid.
I respect all views on the search for truth as equal as my own, and find this work as the most noble, except when done with disrespect of others.

My answer to the definition of one, is simply as I have stated before, the unity and equality of everything, or simply nature's truth.

Thanks,
=
MJA

[mkirkpatrick]

Science is about questing for the understanding of reality,to experiment,test,and confirm
results,to measure that which is real phenomena.

The major problem with this most noble quest,as I see it,is that,science looks without
for the answers to the egnigma of existence,and that being the case,she will never find
them,for reality and "as it IS-ness"lie within only.


The other major problem that stands in sciences way,is their complete inability to realize,
comprehend,or even ponder,the very presence of consciousness within ALL existence,without this most crucial and vital realization,science can only skim on the very surface of reality,and is stuck in a blind cul-de-sac.


The third major promblem with science is that it becomes confused by the great complexity that itself has created! Science sees many things,when there is but one,
call it energy,there is just one universal energy,that's it!When science sees just Thing
and lets go of things,then great steps will be taken.

We are on the "surface of our existence percieved as phenomena,at absolute depth
within us we are IS or Noumena itself.

tbc

regards michael.

[Graybeard]

Limitations of Noumena

Our biological limitations of perception and judgement of our physical world need to be understood so we can know the noumena beyond our senses and the fallacies in our judgement.

Our biology determines how we accept or block new ideas, thoughts, and the very paradigms needed to understand reality at its deepest levels. We must overcome our physical and psychological limitations to successfully pursue the Theory of Everything.

The Theory of Everything will explain the biological basis for human cognition, consciousness, perception, emergent behavior and much more

[Source Unknown to me]


cool bananas ... greg

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Graybeard Limitations of Noumena Our biological limitations of perception and judgement of our physical world need to be understood so we can know the noumena beyond our senses and the fallacies in our judgement. Our biology determines how we accept or block new ideas, thoughts, and the very paradigms needed to understand reality at its deepest levels. We must overcome our physical and psychological limitations to successfully pursue the Theory of Everything. The Theory of Everything will explain the biological basis for human cognition, consciousness, perception, emergent behavior and much more [Source Unknown to me] cool bananas ... greg

I will buy those bananas mate,we are all on a quest for the theory of
everthing,hopefully noumena will point the way?

regards michael.