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    Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less.

    My best philosophy comes from words in songs. I think the minstrels are more aware of the touch of the divine in them.

    Best to you Michael,

    Pat

    P.S. Remember " Only love is real, everything else illusion " C.King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    My best philosophy comes from words in songs. I think the minstrels are more aware of the touch of the divine in them.

    Best to you Michael,

    Pat

    P.S. Remember " Only love is real, everything else illusion " C.King

    I agree with that! Love comes from IS-ness-Less,or IS for short.



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    Quote from Sir James Hopwood Jeans,1877-1946,Engish mathematician,physist,
    and astronomer,quote;"Phenomena come to us disguised in their frameworks of time
    and space;they are messages in cipher of which we shall not understand the ultimate
    significance until we have discovered how to decode them out of their space-time
    wrappings" unquote.

    We are now able to decode these ciphers,and reveal a trail that leads all the way
    to the noumena and beyond,we see further that consciousness is the river that conducts
    all the actions and provides a two way spiral current of connectability.

    We are entering a scientific age,but it will be a science which passes out of the impasse
    which it has now reached and which-having penetrated as it has into the realm of the intagible-will begin to work far more subjectively than heretofore.

    It will recognise the existence of senses which are super-sensory and which are extensions of the five physical senses,and this will be forced upon science because of the
    multitude of reliable people who will possess them and who can work and live in the worlds of the tangible and the intangible simultaneously.

    The mass of reputable testimony will prove incontrovertible.The moment that the subjective world of causes is proven and this will come through the indistputable
    evidence of man's extended sensesscience will enter into a new era;its focus of attention
    will change,the possibilties of discovery will be immense and materialism (as that word is
    now understood) will vanish.

    Even the word "materialism"will become obsolete and men/woman in the future will be
    amused at the limited vision of our modern world and wonder why we thought and felt as we did.

    Quantum reasoning has opened the doorway that leads to noumena and that which
    just "IS"?

    We are "in-formed" ideas of motioning living energy/spirit/,consciouness coalesed and
    held in phase by a willed intention,living "fields" of energy endowed will an element of
    free will,going about our business,unfolding as we go.

    Such is the mystery on man,such are the clouds of astral fog that befuddle man,it is
    no wonder that we find escape and distraction in temporal pursuits. The call of the
    deep beckoning us to listen within,is drowned out by the surface chatter and the garbage
    of media trivality.


    Most of us it seems need some crisis to occur in our lives,this will then often lead to
    thoughtful introspection,and cause us to "take stock" of our lives,and maybe for the
    very first time,heed that inner voice that calls from the very depth of our being.


    A vague feeling of being connected to everything begins to arise from within us,new insights previously unknown to us begin to enter the orbit of our waking consciousness,
    at last the magnetic pull of the "IS" is truly felt and recognised as such.
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    Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less.

    I think you are right Michael;

    I know it took a crisis in my life before I had the epiphany of, ONE TRUE BEAUTIFUL LOVING GOD.
    Before that I was an agnostic.

    When I tranced myself some time later came the AWARENESS of the I AM and the realization that all is ILLUSION, but also and of equal importance, was the awareness that this is all that IS.

    Best to you Michael,

    Pat

    P.S. Hope the R&R is going well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    I think you are right Michael;

    I know it took a crisis in my life before I had the epiphany of, ONE TRUE BEAUTIFUL LOVING GOD.
    Before that I was an agnostic.

    When I tranced myself some time later came the AWARENESS of the I AM and the realization that all is ILLUSION, but also and of equal importance, was the awareness that this is all that IS.

    Best to you Michael,

    Pat

    P.S. Hope the R&R is going well.
    Most grateful for your reply Pat,I have made a point of asking dozens of people
    over the years,regarding crisis,each one said much the same,the greater the crisis,the
    greater depth of response,and the reorientation of ones priorities.

    The call of the deep summons us all,some respond sooner than others?

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    Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less.

    But then again as I told you once before, that when I began losing the I AM awareness, I quickly chickened out and came right back to my own course body.

    Had I lost that awareness maybe I would have discovered Pure Consciousness, and recognize that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

    Best,

    Pat
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    Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less.

    This is like instant messaging;

    I do view my crisis as a blessing now, but I'm reluctant to wish a crisis on anyone, as I am sure you do not either.

    But they do say there are no atheist in a fox hole.

    Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    This is like instant messaging;

    I do view my crisis as a blessing now, but I'm reluctant to wish a crisis on anyone, as I am sure you do not either.

    But they do say there are no atheist in a fox hole.

    Pat
    You are right Pat it is like instant messaging,great stuff I say! No I wish no crisis
    on anyone,however it is I feel the only way we grow,if you are not aquainted with grief
    then life seems quite shallow?


    When we truly understand that we are all linked by a common bond of reality,then
    we will alter the way we do and feel things.


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    Clarity comes with stillness,as with a pond,if we are to obtain clarity of mind we have to discard the many intrusions of thought that distract us from focussing on a chosen thing.

    We our a self-aware point of energy anchored in this dense physical realm by a coherent
    "will to be" and embarking upon a journey of unfoldment,which "exactly" parallels that of
    say a lotus flower?

    When we gradually awaken from our long slumber we begin to put two and two together
    and make ONE! The call of the IS from the portal of noumena echos deeply from within
    us,we know it to be so,our "own" being informs us of such.

    When this understanding is vouchsafed within us,we embark out with a renewed perspective on life and living,and see just "thing" behind the things?

    The discovery of "IS" within,and the reeling depths of noumena,awaken a recognision
    from within our inner being.This by its very nature,causes a major rethinking of all our
    previously held beliefs and assumptions,false and threadbare ideas fall away,a new perspective arises up from the depths of our consciousness,that which was previously
    unknown suddenly becomes crystal clear.

    "Am I my brothers keeper"?A question from the Bible,now seems obvious,we are as one!
    Would you seriously want to hurt or harm yourself? Yes I am aware that millions do that
    very thing,but mainly that is because thay are cut of from the realization that they are not
    alone,the feeling of being isolated is a killer,(I know this from personal experience).

    Confusion starts to ebb away when many reduces to one,when all these seperate things
    become just thing,a clarity of mind that at first seems alarming settles in,all those many
    thoughts about how that connects to this,seem to be simply answered.

    The Buddha has said;"That we must not believe in a thing said merely because it is said;
    nor traditions because they have been handed down from antiquity;nor rumours,as such;
    nor writings by sages,because sages wrote them;nor fancies that we may suspect to have
    been inspired in us by a Deva(that is,in presumed spiritual inspiration);nor from inferences drawn from some haphazard assumption we may have made,nor because of what seemsan analogical necessity;nor on the mere authority of our teachers or masters.

    But we are to believe when the writing,doctrine,or saying is corroborated by our own reason and consciousness. "For this",says he in concluding,"I taught you not to believe merely because you have heard,but when you believed of your consciousness,then to act
    accordingly and abundantly"Unquote.

    On the descending arc it is the spiritual which gradually transforms into the material.
    On the middle line of the base,spirit and matter are equilibrised in man.On the ascending
    arc,spirit is slowely re-asserting itself at the expence of the physical,or matter.

    Man is identical in spiritual and physical essence with both the Absolute Principle and with
    God in nature.It is the spiritual evolution iof the inner immortal man that forms the fundamental tenet of esoteric sciences.

    According to the ageless wisdom ,an idea is a Being incorporeal,which has no subsistence
    by itself but gives figure and form unto shapeless matter,and becomes the cause of the
    manifestation.

    The ageless wisdom sees in the manifestation of every force in nature the action of the quality or the special characteristic of its noumenon;which noumenon is a distinct and
    intelligent individuality on the other side of the manifested mechanical universe.

    Ultimately we have no "real" independant reality,there is but One,but relatively we are
    many,and the evolutionary journey we are all embarking on will last for millions of our
    years (solar cycles) the unfolding process that leads to full realisation and atonement with
    the all,is many lifetimes distant from us.

    The journey is one of discovery and expansion of conscious awareness,it seems we learn
    most when we are subject to crisis,without crisis we stagnate.

    We are the visible sign of an invisible force,the tangible rising out of the intangible,we
    surface into self aware consciousness around about our third year in manifested form(physical) from there on in we are in a process of expansion and growing awareness,at
    a point along this line of unfoldment,we may well experience "stirrings" from deep within
    us,these can sometime take the form of an intuitive knowing,a feeling of "previously unknown truth"this appears to arise out of our subconscious minds and "appear" in our
    present consciousness.

    This level of unfoldment I would call "the deep calling the shallow reflection"The "IS" calling its in-form-al idea to remind its charge of its true abode,this echo of reflected
    reality is serviced by the portal of noumena.

    The "IS" spirals down the vibrational matrix of Ying and "surfaces finally within the illusary
    theatre of relative time and space,where "we" are presented with the "shadows of the real"and spend most of our lives chasing these Wil'0 the wisps trying to make sense of it all.

    While the Yang on a return spiral reflects "our" essence back into the depths of noumena's
    bosom.

    A constant flow of energy in and out of our being mantains the balance and polarity
    of these electrical exchanges.
    regards michael.

    That which "IS" forever remains that way,no change can possibly occur,unlike our relative
    existence,where change is a daily occurence.As we go within and discover our timeless
    reality of being,we begin to "see" the outward world as one of illusion,and adjust our ideas
    accordingly.
    regards michael.
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    Re: Noumena = Is-ness=less.

    Hey Michael,
    Guess what?
    I figured out IS today!
    I'll share the proof soon.
    Keep up the good work.

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    it is only equal and the lion is one.
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