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01-21-2008, 07:16 AM
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Consciousness arises from within the bosom of noumena and spreads out to fill the physical universe with its presence.That which IS is the arrow that penetrates the deepest
depths of physicallity and gives it the momentum to "arise" and go to my "fathers house"?
IS is the driver and consciousness is the vechicle!
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01-21-2008, 08:24 AM
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Everything = IS (Infinite Space)
IS has Infinite forms, but 'consciousness' is merely another spectrum of a kind of form. A wave of its own, even though it emerges, like everything 'else', from the Infinite.
Is a grain of sand 'conscious'? - Even if we could say a tentative 'yes', we would have to concede that it can only be as 'conscious' as this particular form of Space has the possibility, or potential to be. 'Grains of sand' and 'consciousness' are two differing forms of Space. Therefore, it would be equally pertinent to say that: "All is sand!"
'Consciousness' is thus but another possibility in an Infinite Space of other possibilities.
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01-21-2008, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle  Everything = IS (Infinite Space)
IS has Infinite forms, but 'consciousness' is merely another spectrum of a kind of form. A wave of its own, even though it emerges, like everything 'else', from the Infinite.
Is a grain of sand 'conscious'? - Even if we could say a tentative 'yes', we would have to concede that it can only be as 'conscious' as this particular form of Space has the possibility, or potential to be. 'Grains of sand' and 'consciousness' are two differing forms of Space. Therefore, it would be equally pertinent to say that: "All is sand!"
'Consciousness' is thus but another possibility in an Infinite Space of other possibilities.
pif. | Thanks pif for your contribution to this here thread,interesting observation pif,prehaps
the only real difference between us and a grain of sand is-I know that I know,and can
reflect on that knowing,a grain of sand lacks the reflective principle that arises out of
expanded self aware consciousness!
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01-21-2008, 12:33 PM
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Dear Michael,
Sure is a lot a = signs in this thread,
I think I'll call it truth, and make it my home.
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01-21-2008, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MJA Dear Michael,
Sure is a lot a = signs in this thread,
I think I'll call it truth, and make it my home.
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01-21-2008, 06:38 PM
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"prehaps the only real difference between us and a grain of sand is-I know that I know,and can reflect on that knowing,a grain of sand lacks the reflective principle that arises out of expanded self aware consciousness!"
I think that if the noumena is Islessness, and you know that you know, Socrates' defence-trial rendition impyling we know nothing is absolutely fitting. | | | | Moderator
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01-21-2008, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by N0B0DY "prehaps the only real difference between us and a grain of sand is-I know that I know,and can reflect on that knowing,a grain of sand lacks the reflective principle that arises out of expanded self aware consciousness!"
I think that if the noumena is Islessness, and you know that you know, Socrates' defence-trial rendition impyling we know nothing is absolutely fitting. |
When we know we know nothing,then ALL is open before us,when we claim knowledge
we portray great foolishness!
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01-22-2008, 06:10 AM
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"What do you do when you know that you know, that you know that you're wrong?" - Sun Ra
Hey, where did this 'reflective principle' come from? And if 'consciousness' is already 'everywhere', then how can it further 'expand'?
pif.
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01-22-2008, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle "What do you do when you know that you know, that you know that you're wrong?" - Sun Ra
Hey, where did this 'reflective principle' come from? And if 'consciousness' is already 'everywhere', then how can it further 'expand'?
pif. | Consciousness does NOT expand,rather our awareness of IT does.The reflective principle
is inherit within us,deep down within the core of Being,we know that we ARE?
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01-22-2008, 06:57 AM
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...expanded self aware consciousness!
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Consciousness does NOT expand...
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So, what are we to make of this?
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