[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by socratus Who am I? I am energy with thought. / Mohan. C./ Yes! It is correct. But there are two energy with thought: 1. computer,s thought ( more or less logical ) 2. instinct,s thought (intuition , unconsciousness) * * * Descartes said: "I think, therefore I am" But when Zen/Tibetan Buddhist monks, trained in meditation, begin conscious awareness, the "I think not, therefore I am" * * * The theory of knowledge. The man acts: 1) at usual under logic program, 2) sometimes on intuition (unconsciousness). * * * Brain of a man approximately consists of sixteen milliards neurons. All of them form the system that manages human body. That is why it is of no wonder that with the work of all the sixteen milliards neutrons of brain, a man cannot catch a single impulse of Electron, Quantum of light, his God: ( mass of electron is equal 10^-31 kg, charge of electron is equal 10^-19 k)

I am you
and you are I,and we are one,within the all,which is us?
regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

thought is energy though, Mohan, so you (and I) are energy, plain and simple.
And yes, all one.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl thought is energy though, Mohan, so you (and I) are energy, plain and simple. And yes, all one.

You have given us all something to think about?

kind regards michael.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl thought is energy though, Mohan, so you (and I) are energy, plain and simple. And yes, all one.

But thought is not everything we are, we are also matter. Body and mind. But I disagree with separatists that defend there is a distinction between mind and body: they are, in my opinion, wrapped around each other, not physically speaking, but existentially speaking. What do you think?

[harmonygirl]

I agree that body and mind are integrated (yoga helps!). I think this might depend on what you consider reality to be. Do we really have bodies? Is there really matter? Is matter just energy at a lower frequency? I am sure there are as many different opinions as there are people!

[Guille]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl I agree that body and mind are integrated (yoga helps!). I think this might depend on what you consider reality to be. Do we really have bodies? Is there really matter? Is matter just energy at a lower frequency? I am sure there are as many different opinions as there are people!

I agree. But, wait... I'm confused. You neglected my claim that society is nihilistic, and yet your theory is that the world, nature, is pure nihilism. You believe all beliefs are correct, right? That the world is in an infinite forms? Then why philosophy? (don't take me agressive, I'm jsut curious).

[harmonygirl]

Guille, I don't believe in nihilism, because that is the belief in nothing. I believe in something. I think our perception of reality is flawed but that we are energy. I don't think nihilists believe in that.
I guess philosophy because that is my natural curiousity. I search for truth and don't pretend that I know it in an absolute sense. I believe I know it, but what separates my truly held belief from that of a crazy person? Maybe it is human nature to ask 'why?'

[Guille]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl Guille, I don't believe in nihilism, because that is the belief in nothing. I believe in something. I think our perception of reality is flawed but that we are energy. I don't think nihilists believe in that. I guess philosophy because that is my natural curiousity. I search for truth and don't pretend that I know it in an absolute sense. I believe I know it, but what separates my truly held belief from that of a crazy person? Maybe it is human nature to ask 'why?'

But nihilism is that! Deconstruction is based on nihilism and fragmentation: being relative to any position, and dividing it to study it. That is what exactly you are doing here. If we get on the point of view of the crazy person, the rest are all crazy and he is not. Nihilism is the believe in nothing and everything. It is not neglecting ideals, but saying ideals have no value as anything can be ideal. You say your truth my have no value as there can be many truths, this is what you are always defending, a wholistic-relativism. I asked 'why philosophy?' not in you, but if your opinion is true, then there is no need for philosophy no reason for it... For the reason of philosophy is philosophy itself (as philosophy is reason), and you'r eliminating philsophy or any ideal if there can be any ideal. You'r true, yes, but then there is no space for reason.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl I agree that body and mind are integrated (yoga helps!). I think this might depend on what you consider reality to be. Do we really have bodies? Is there really matter? Is matter just energy at a lower frequency? I am sure there are as many different opinions as there are people!

Yes it is
H.g just energyat a lower frequency,tune up the frequency and we begin to glow,to emit visible light,at lower light frequencies it is just sensitives (mediums)
who can see thislight (aura) but as the frequencies ascend the higher harmonics
then an individual can and indeed does,give of visible light,which canbe seen by
anybody.


kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

and sound at higher frequencies? I still come back to what are the 2 forces that push and pull us?
Guille, how can nihilism believe in everything if it fundamentally is premised on a belief of nothing? I know my opinion is true, but given how illusory life is, I accept that I could be wrong, hence philosophy. Maybe in a nut shell, philosophy is the search for proof that we are right in our thinking!